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No, no it isn't. There are a lot more than 2 options to choose from.

nickthemagicman 6y ago
Oh I completely agree. But these two options seems to be the choices that are being discussed by the media and government. You're either pro Covid restrictions or you're a granny killer. I personally think we should quarantine the age 55+ crowd and let the people under 55 go about their business. The under age 55 group is like 80% of the population who have only 20,000 covid fatalities which is less than car accident fatalities so why are they being locked up?
- lazide 6y ago
  How do you propose to isolate the > 55 age group when no one younger is isolating? Nurses, doctors, people they live with will be a vector and pass it to them. And the under 55 age group (at .11% IFR) is still not going to want out and blindly get infected as that is still hundreds of thousands of deaths - leading to them avoiding being out in sizable numbers and still causing economic problems. [Source: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30769-6/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3...]
  - matz1 6y ago
    The economic problem due to lockdown > than the economic problem hundreds of thousands of deaths.
    - lazide 6y ago
      The recession started before the first lockdown. Most people don't spend money on things/do stuff when they are afraid of dying while doing so. Hundreds of thousands of deaths due to uncontrolled population spread, randomly (nearly) amongst the population is going to cause the economy to crater - and even the possibility of it already did before any lockdowns happened. The lockdowns just stopped the 25% (guess) of the population that is going to YOLO anyway from causing even more damage. The businesses were still going to get a huge hit regardless.
      - nickthemagicman 6y ago
        This is all false. The S and P 500 was breaking records before Covid. The s and p 500 is actually breaking records now WITH Covid. Pretty much everything you just said seems to be inaccurate and no citations are provided. The corporations are doing great. The small businesses and individuals are being crushed.
  - nickthemagicman 6y ago
    Here's the beauty of it. We don't forcefully isolate anyone. We give the people the information and let them make up their own minds. People can choose to leave quarantine or not. We don't use government force. Just like cigarettes. We give them the information and let them think for themselves. Giving people the freedom to think for themselves is a beautiful thing. It's the basis of John Lockes natural rights which the founding fathers used as as a principle when writing the constitution. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_thought https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_thought

Oh I completely agree. But these two options seems to be the choices that are being discussed by the media and government. You're either pro Covid restrictions or you're a granny killer. I personally think we should quarantine the age 55+ crowd and let the people under 55 go about their business. The under age 55 group is like 80% of the population who have only 20,000 covid fatalities which is less than car accident fatalities so why are they being locked up?

lazide 6y ago
How do you propose to isolate the > 55 age group when no one younger is isolating? Nurses, doctors, people they live with will be a vector and pass it to them. And the under 55 age group (at .11% IFR) is still not going to want out and blindly get infected as that is still hundreds of thousands of deaths - leading to them avoiding being out in sizable numbers and still causing economic problems. [Source: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30769-6/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3...]
- matz1 6y ago
  The economic problem due to lockdown > than the economic problem hundreds of thousands of deaths.
  - lazide 6y ago
    The recession started before the first lockdown. Most people don't spend money on things/do stuff when they are afraid of dying while doing so. Hundreds of thousands of deaths due to uncontrolled population spread, randomly (nearly) amongst the population is going to cause the economy to crater - and even the possibility of it already did before any lockdowns happened. The lockdowns just stopped the 25% (guess) of the population that is going to YOLO anyway from causing even more damage. The businesses were still going to get a huge hit regardless.
    - nickthemagicman 6y ago
      This is all false. The S and P 500 was breaking records before Covid. The s and p 500 is actually breaking records now WITH Covid. Pretty much everything you just said seems to be inaccurate and no citations are provided. The corporations are doing great. The small businesses and individuals are being crushed.
- nickthemagicman 6y ago
  Here's the beauty of it. We don't forcefully isolate anyone. We give the people the information and let them make up their own minds. People can choose to leave quarantine or not. We don't use government force. Just like cigarettes. We give them the information and let them think for themselves. Giving people the freedom to think for themselves is a beautiful thing. It's the basis of John Lockes natural rights which the founding fathers used as as a principle when writing the constitution. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_thought https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_thought