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It's not a conspiracy. There's active litigation heading to the Supreme Court this week to address this. There's nearly 1000 signed witness affidavits attesting

It's not a conspiracy. There's active litigation heading to the Supreme Court this week to address this. There's nearly 1000 signed witness affidavits attesting to this. There's video evidence backing it up. https://twitter.com/kelliwardaz/status/1335225504899739649 https://twitter.com/kelliwardaz/status/1335225504899739649

mmastrac 6y ago
Yeah, the side that says the election was stolen is what? 1:50 for wins/losses? Weird how all the claims that are so strong magically don't appear in the actual suits where there are real consequences for lying. The supreme court is going to drop this case, like every other venue has. Stacking the court at the last minute with a conservative judge isn't going to magically save this losing case. Have you seen these witnesses? Have you seen their testimony? Have you seen the lawsuits that were submitted with typos on the first page? (EDIT: first line! [1]) This entire thing is a grift and a sham that will thankfully come to an end within a week. [1] https://archive.org/details/complaint-cj-pearson-v.-kemp-11.25.2020 https://archive.org/details/complaint-cj-pearson-v.-kemp-11....
- djsumdog 6y ago
  I've watched a ton of the testimony and read several of the lawsuits. In PA alone, you had 1.7 million mail in ballots sent out and over 2 million received. There are completely insane numbers of cases where dead people have voted, where signatures were not verified at all, where people who moved voted, where women found others had voted under their maiden names. There is a real big problem with election irregularities. There was a lot going on. Whenever counting stops .. and takes days, that's a sign that someone is injecting ballots. That's what happens in corrupt nations in South/Central American and Africa and Russia. We are in very real danger of losing all confidence in the election process in America. If you don't see that, you are selectively ignoring a dangerous reality. The Supreme Court is going to take these cases, and if they see the evidence and declare these States violated the laws ... America is going to loose their collective shit and we'll see riots like you wouldn't believe from the left. If Biden gets certified ... you'll see massive violence from the far-left and the media will blame it on right wing conservatives. You should probably go read 1984 and then watch the news again.
  - mmastrac 6y ago
    > In PA alone, you had 1.7 million mail in ballots sent out and over 2 million received. Come on man. This is easily debunked. The Republicans tweeted numbers that mixed primary and general election numbers. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/28/fact-check-pennsylvania-ballot-claim-mixes-primary-general-election-data/6450032002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/28/fac...
  - MisterBastahrd 6y ago
    Sure you did. You also took everything the Trump legal team said at face value without a single iota of criticality. Because if you didn't, you would have never mentioned those mail-in ballots. There were over 3 million ballots requested for the general election in PA. PA, by the way, is a state that did not allow for mail-in ballots to be counted until the in-person elections were finished. Georgia was another. Both of them have Republican legislatures. I'm sure you also took at face value the testimony of that drunk temp worker who complained about not getting enough to eat and then amending it with claims of pollbook issues. So much more believable than the Republican and Democrat poll observers who were there the entire time to watch each vote get counted. There isn't a state or precinct anywhere on the planet that does real time vote updates. They do them in batches. It's why a state can lean a certain way and analysts are still confident they will go in a different direction: large population centers take more time to count, and in this case the votes were segregated due to a court order, so they couldn't even mix those ballots up in PA. The rest of us can't help it if you're willing to swallow a conspiracy theory because the candidate you support lost. We can't even really be bothered with it. The Republican legislatures will do a couple of things to assuage your hurt feelings, and then they'll move on to the next thing on their agendas. As for your threats of violence, nobody cares. You can deal with the US military after Jan 20th if you're that angry about the election. I'm sure they'll be responsive to your feelings.
  - AnimalMuppet 6y ago
    > If Biden gets certified ... you'll see massive violence from the far-left and the media will blame it on right wing conservatives. From the far left? Why? What's your rationale for claiming that they would instigate violence?
drchopchop 6y ago
The Supreme Court already threw it out, and that tweet is 4 days old.
- chrisco255 6y ago
  No, it didn't, there are several active and open cases on their way to the court, including Texas vs. MI, GA, PA, and WI. The point of the tweet is to show video evidence of republican poll watchers being kicked out of buildings so shady things can happen behind the scenes. There's no reason to be non-transparent by force if you're not trying to illegally rig an election, is there? https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/8/texas-goes-supreme-court-challenge-flawed-election/ https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/8/texas-goes-s...
  - drchopchop 6y ago
    Sure, and there are almost 50 now that have been tossed out by courts due to lack of any actual evidence. One misleading video does not get to disenfranchise millions of people. But, I'm sure the top-tier legal minds of Rudy and Sidney Powell will come up with solid, irrefutable evidence any day now.
    - mmastrac 6y ago
      Assuming they don't die of COVID-19 in the meantime, at least. But yeah, exactly. This is the crack legal team that misspelled "district" on the first line of their "kraken" lawsuit. You can sue for anything. The only way to tell if your suit has merit is winning. You can tell pretty easily that your suit doesn't have merit by getting tossed out of court -- which all of these have.
      - chrisco255 6y ago
        No, you can't. Anything this big is going to be challenged all the way up to the Supreme Court. And no, a typo is not a big deal worth spending minutes of our lives over-analyzing. If our laughable press spent more time on investigating fraud than they did typos in 100 page lawsuits, we might actually have a functioning republic.

mmastrac 6y ago

Yeah, the side that says the election was stolen is what? 1:50 for wins/losses? Weird how all the claims that are so strong magically don't appear in the actual suits where there are real consequences for lying. The supreme court is going to drop this case, like every other venue has. Stacking the court at the last minute with a conservative judge isn't going to magically save this losing case. Have you seen these witnesses? Have you seen their testimony? Have you seen the lawsuits that were submitted with typos on the first page? (EDIT: first line! [1]) This entire thing is a grift and a sham that will thankfully come to an end within a week. [1] https://archive.org/details/complaint-cj-pearson-v.-kemp-11.25.2020 https://archive.org/details/complaint-cj-pearson-v.-kemp-11....

djsumdog 6y ago
I've watched a ton of the testimony and read several of the lawsuits. In PA alone, you had 1.7 million mail in ballots sent out and over 2 million received. There are completely insane numbers of cases where dead people have voted, where signatures were not verified at all, where people who moved voted, where women found others had voted under their maiden names. There is a real big problem with election irregularities. There was a lot going on. Whenever counting stops .. and takes days, that's a sign that someone is injecting ballots. That's what happens in corrupt nations in South/Central American and Africa and Russia. We are in very real danger of losing all confidence in the election process in America. If you don't see that, you are selectively ignoring a dangerous reality. The Supreme Court is going to take these cases, and if they see the evidence and declare these States violated the laws ... America is going to loose their collective shit and we'll see riots like you wouldn't believe from the left. If Biden gets certified ... you'll see massive violence from the far-left and the media will blame it on right wing conservatives. You should probably go read 1984 and then watch the news again.
- mmastrac 6y ago
  > In PA alone, you had 1.7 million mail in ballots sent out and over 2 million received. Come on man. This is easily debunked. The Republicans tweeted numbers that mixed primary and general election numbers. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/28/fact-check-pennsylvania-ballot-claim-mixes-primary-general-election-data/6450032002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/28/fac...
- MisterBastahrd 6y ago
  Sure you did. You also took everything the Trump legal team said at face value without a single iota of criticality. Because if you didn't, you would have never mentioned those mail-in ballots. There were over 3 million ballots requested for the general election in PA. PA, by the way, is a state that did not allow for mail-in ballots to be counted until the in-person elections were finished. Georgia was another. Both of them have Republican legislatures. I'm sure you also took at face value the testimony of that drunk temp worker who complained about not getting enough to eat and then amending it with claims of pollbook issues. So much more believable than the Republican and Democrat poll observers who were there the entire time to watch each vote get counted. There isn't a state or precinct anywhere on the planet that does real time vote updates. They do them in batches. It's why a state can lean a certain way and analysts are still confident they will go in a different direction: large population centers take more time to count, and in this case the votes were segregated due to a court order, so they couldn't even mix those ballots up in PA. The rest of us can't help it if you're willing to swallow a conspiracy theory because the candidate you support lost. We can't even really be bothered with it. The Republican legislatures will do a couple of things to assuage your hurt feelings, and then they'll move on to the next thing on their agendas. As for your threats of violence, nobody cares. You can deal with the US military after Jan 20th if you're that angry about the election. I'm sure they'll be responsive to your feelings.
- AnimalMuppet 6y ago
  > If Biden gets certified ... you'll see massive violence from the far-left and the media will blame it on right wing conservatives. From the far left? Why? What's your rationale for claiming that they would instigate violence?

drchopchop 6y ago

The Supreme Court already threw it out, and that tweet is 4 days old.

chrisco255 6y ago
No, it didn't, there are several active and open cases on their way to the court, including Texas vs. MI, GA, PA, and WI. The point of the tweet is to show video evidence of republican poll watchers being kicked out of buildings so shady things can happen behind the scenes. There's no reason to be non-transparent by force if you're not trying to illegally rig an election, is there? https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/8/texas-goes-supreme-court-challenge-flawed-election/ https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/8/texas-goes-s...
- drchopchop 6y ago
  Sure, and there are almost 50 now that have been tossed out by courts due to lack of any actual evidence. One misleading video does not get to disenfranchise millions of people. But, I'm sure the top-tier legal minds of Rudy and Sidney Powell will come up with solid, irrefutable evidence any day now.
  - mmastrac 6y ago
    Assuming they don't die of COVID-19 in the meantime, at least. But yeah, exactly. This is the crack legal team that misspelled "district" on the first line of their "kraken" lawsuit. You can sue for anything. The only way to tell if your suit has merit is winning. You can tell pretty easily that your suit doesn't have merit by getting tossed out of court -- which all of these have.
    - chrisco255 6y ago
      No, you can't. Anything this big is going to be challenged all the way up to the Supreme Court. And no, a typo is not a big deal worth spending minutes of our lives over-analyzing. If our laughable press spent more time on investigating fraud than they did typos in 100 page lawsuits, we might actually have a functioning republic.