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Historical tweet from a CA Assembly Member from Southern California: https://twitter.com/LorenaSGonzalez/status/1259287879177531392?s=19 https://twitter.com/Lo
by cft 6y ago
Historical tweet from a CA Assembly Member from Southern California:
https://twitter.com/LorenaSGonzalez/status/1259287879177531392?s=19 https://twitter.com/LorenaSGonzalez/status/12592878791775313...
- bzb6 6y agoGreat contribution. By the way I’ll never understand people who are proud of their Hispanic heritage but then can’t be arsed to write their own names with the proper accents.
- addicted 6y agoI'm not sure what accents on letters have to do with being proud of one's heritage.
- bzb6 6y agoBecause accents are part of your language and your language is an integral part of your heritage.
- nemothekid 6y agoI don’t think the a European language is particularly important in the heritage of those from Latin America
- hirundo 6y agoLatin is a European language.
- nemothekid 6y agoLatin America refers to the countries in Central and and South American that were colonized by Spain and Portugal. It has nothing to do with the Latin language.
- Darmody 6y agoYes it has and you said why.
- jnwatson 6y agoHuh? Where did Spanish come from?
- nemothekid 6y agoFrom Spain, the country in Europe? Mexicans weren't speaking Spanish before Spanish colonization.
- Darmody 6y agoCulturally, Mexicans are closer to Spanish people than to the natives.
- tqi 6y agoYou don't really get to tell other people what the right way celebrate their heritage is...
- bzb6 6y agoThat’s why I said I’ll never understand them, not that they should be put in jail.
- microtherion 6y agoConsider having this as your surname: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Čulo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Čulo I was rather startled when I saw the first e-mail from a new colleague, when either our e-mail system thought ASCII was good enough for everyone or, (more likely in this case) the accent got lost earlier due to migration and someone's indifference to ancestral heritage. I would be intrigued to learn the actual story, but it's not the kind of question to ask casually of slight acquaintances, I think.
- whymauri 6y agoI don't think I know a single latino who accents their Spanish and their name consistently. If I texted my dad asking where the accents in my name are, he might not actually know, lol. Obvious exception for formal writing.
- bitxbitxbitcoin 6y agoI want to point out that she mentions Latinos, not Hispanics. Latinos are people who hail from Latin America - the kind of people that had Hispanic last names forced on them at some point in history. Makes sense to me why they can't be arsed to write their own names with "proper" accents.
- rootsudo 6y agoAt the same time, what is "latino" what is "hispanic?" Are they a real identity, or were they created for the US census as a form of red lining? What is "hailing" from anymore, someone whose born to a south american family, whose an indingious south american family? But I would say I don't write my name in proper accents and I don't know anyone else that do, but I dont' care about accents, the question of the labeling and who created the label is more interesting. Dropping accents is just vernacular.
- Darmody 6y agoWhat? First of all, most of latinos are hispanic. Being Brazilians the largest group of latinos that are not hispanic but ibero-americans. Second. They were not forced. Isabel of Castille prohibited slavery 500 ago and made marriages between Spanish people and natives legal. Most of the people that went there were men and their kids would inherit their last name. Thid. There are a lot of latinos that emigrated from Spain and lived there for centuries and they keep their last name. If they don't want to use accents, that's their decision, but stop making up stuff.
- throwaway894345 6y agoI'm not sure if you're sharing this to echo the sentiment, but it's plausibly worth sharing to note that this politician is transparently working to drive Tesla operations out of her jurisdiction.
- cft 6y agoI am just linking the historical background for Musk's move. Not sure why I'm getting downvoted- it's a factual tweet from a politician from where he lived.
- throwaway894345 6y agoI think it's because people don't know the connection between this Tweet and Musk's move, and it comes off as though you are simply echoing someone else's edgy Internet comment. I think if you were clear that you were sharing a historical connection for those who may not have known about it, you wouldn't have received as many downvotes.
- DenisM 6y agoPerhaps for the same reason an editor for a very prominent news paper got fired for publishing a policy statement by a very prominent politician. Killing the messenger nowadays is all the rage. "Rage" here to be taken literally.
- SEJeff 6y agoIt was a good comment, but should have some context wrt the tweet, otherwise people will assume you're echoing the sentiment. Politicians like that are going to be really bad for California in the long run. California is already one of the more expensive places to own and operate a business, but when you have politicians who are outright anti-business, it doesn't bode well for new investment.
- DiogenesKynikos 6y agoThey made that comment after Elon Musk blatantly flouted coronavirus regulations and reopened his factory in Fremont. Shortly afterward, there was a CoVID-19 outbreak at the factory.[1] 1. https://electrek.co/2020/07/14/tesla-spike-covid-19-cases-data-leak/ https://electrek.co/2020/07/14/tesla-spike-covid-19-cases-da...
- _throwawayyyyyy 6y agoexactly - elon musk directly contributed to the rise of covid in the bay
- Reedx 6y agoAt least an emblematic Tweet, and arguably the straw that broke the camel's back: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1259638112688304129 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1259638112688304129 Contrast that with leaders who are welcoming to tech and would be happy to be the next Silicon Valley: https://twitter.com/zebulgar/status/1335715868487995392 https://twitter.com/zebulgar/status/1335715868487995392
- oh_sigh 6y ago> And, the deaths from Covid-19 in California are disproportionately Latino. Our communities have been the hardest hit. By far. Maybe that’s why we take the public health officials’ warning and directions so seriously. Does that follow? Wouldn't it seem more likely that California latinos statistically disregard health officials advice if they're being most impacted by a disease which doesn't care about ethnicity?
- _throwawayyyyyy 6y agoYes it follows. \ "Wouldn't it seem more likely that California latinos statistically disregard health officials advice" - No. For example: a lot of communities have intergenerational families living in close proximity due to lack of affordable housing, jobs, redlining, etc. Having many people living closer together explains being "most impacted" as well as (obviously better than but hey I'm being magnanimous) your thesis that people are choosing to "disregard advice". Just... no.
- oh_sigh 6y agoSo is this just that poor people are disproportionately affected by covid? I could say "Alaskans are disproportionately affected by testicular cancer", because their per capita rate of it is higher than any other state. But it has nothing to do with being Alaskan - they have a totally normal rate of testicular cancer - it is just because a higher percentage of men live there than anywhere else in the US. And, her next tweet in that thread is her celebrating keeping playgrounds open. Yes, children need to play - but maybe they can spread covid there?
- burnthrow 6y ago> a lot of communities have intergenerational families living in close proximity due to lack of affordable housing, jobs, redlining, etc. Having many kids is part of it too.