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How will they verify that individuals have been vaccinated if the government doesn't supply that information? Also, you raise an interesting dichotomy between

by bt1a 6y ago

How will they verify that individuals have been vaccinated if the government doesn't supply that information? Also, you raise an interesting dichotomy between those who can't VS those who won't that I hadn't considered.

bb123 6y ago
The NHS is providing a certificate to show vaccination has taken place. I imagine other countries will follow suit. I could even see it ending up as an official stamp in your passport or similar.
- gdubs 6y ago
  I have certificates lying around somewhere for the vaccinations I received as a kid. Pretty sure school required them baring some waiver. I’m not making predictions about how the Covid vaccine will be handled, but rather just putting it into a little context.
  - Taniwha 6y ago
    if you travel a lot it's common to carry a vaccination card (I have one for all those tropical disease vaccinations I've had) - I expect many countries will require you to carry such covid status documentation before they let you in (or board the plane to their country
- Symbiote 6y ago
  There's already a process and standard, internationally-recognized certificate for Yellow Fever vaccination, overseen by the WHO. Some countries check this book at the border. The certificate booklet has space for other vaccinations. Booklet: https://tourseastafrica.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/yellowcard.jpg https://tourseastafrica.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/yellowca...
- corin_ 6y ago
  This has not been announced, unless I've missed it in the last 36 hours, only speculated about. There are NHS vaccination reminder cards which you'll be given at your first appointment and recommended to keep in your wallet - with sticker(s) of what dates you had / will have jabs, and a little info about how to find out more info. This is standard NHS practise for vaccinations that require multiple spaced out injections - I've had two cards pretty much identical to the photo I've seen of the covid ones in the last few years, for other vaccines from the NHS. The UK's Health Minister confirmed to Sky News yesterday morning that they are not for providing proof you've been vaccinated, and that they do not need to be kept after your final injection.
CaptArmchair 6y ago
> How will they verify that individuals have been vaccinated if the government doesn't supply that information? Should public authorities keep a record of whether or not you've been vaccinated? Vaccination is a medical procedure. As such, whether someone is or isn't vaccinated could be considered a private matter (patient-doctor confidentiality), just like any other medical treatment. If vaccination became mandatory, we'd have a different discussion. But if it's not, a public government has little argument to keep a record about your medical history, and, even less so, divulge that information to private actors. Can private actors - venues, hotels, restaurants,... - force someone to divulge medical information? No. They can't. They could ask, but you're not obliged to answer anything related to your medical history. Could they refuse entrance if you refuse to provide medical information? I'm curious when the first legal cases will pop up where someone decides to take a venue to court because they were actively refused entrance over being unwilling to divulge medical information.

by bt1a 6y ago

bb123 6y ago

The NHS is providing a certificate to show vaccination has taken place. I imagine other countries will follow suit. I could even see it ending up as an official stamp in your passport or similar.

gdubs 6y ago
I have certificates lying around somewhere for the vaccinations I received as a kid. Pretty sure school required them baring some waiver. I’m not making predictions about how the Covid vaccine will be handled, but rather just putting it into a little context.
- Taniwha 6y ago
  if you travel a lot it's common to carry a vaccination card (I have one for all those tropical disease vaccinations I've had) - I expect many countries will require you to carry such covid status documentation before they let you in (or board the plane to their country
Symbiote 6y ago
There's already a process and standard, internationally-recognized certificate for Yellow Fever vaccination, overseen by the WHO. Some countries check this book at the border. The certificate booklet has space for other vaccinations. Booklet: https://tourseastafrica.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/yellowcard.jpg https://tourseastafrica.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/yellowca...
corin_ 6y ago
This has not been announced, unless I've missed it in the last 36 hours, only speculated about. There are NHS vaccination reminder cards which you'll be given at your first appointment and recommended to keep in your wallet - with sticker(s) of what dates you had / will have jabs, and a little info about how to find out more info. This is standard NHS practise for vaccinations that require multiple spaced out injections - I've had two cards pretty much identical to the photo I've seen of the covid ones in the last few years, for other vaccines from the NHS. The UK's Health Minister confirmed to Sky News yesterday morning that they are not for providing proof you've been vaccinated, and that they do not need to be kept after your final injection.

CaptArmchair 6y ago

> How will they verify that individuals have been vaccinated if the government doesn't supply that information? Should public authorities keep a record of whether or not you've been vaccinated? Vaccination is a medical procedure. As such, whether someone is or isn't vaccinated could be considered a private matter (patient-doctor confidentiality), just like any other medical treatment. If vaccination became mandatory, we'd have a different discussion. But if it's not, a public government has little argument to keep a record about your medical history, and, even less so, divulge that information to private actors. Can private actors - venues, hotels, restaurants,... - force someone to divulge medical information? No. They can't. They could ask, but you're not obliged to answer anything related to your medical history. Could they refuse entrance if you refuse to provide medical information? I'm curious when the first legal cases will pop up where someone decides to take a venue to court because they were actively refused entrance over being unwilling to divulge medical information.