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Rocky Linux: Community enterprise OS compatible with RHEL

86 points by varbhat 6y ago

varbhat 6y ago
Rocky Linux is a community enterprise Operating System designed to be 100% bug-for-bug compatible with Red Hat Enterprise Linux now that CentOS has shifted direction - CentOS founder Gregory Kurtzer to start new rebuild of RHEL.
Tepix 6y ago
Very interesting. Quite a few commercial products are now based on CentOS as their main operating system. I wonder if they will switch to Rocky Linux as well. I believe the planned stream version of CentOS does not appeal to the need of many enterprises.
majesticmerc 6y ago
Forgive my cynicism... I'm not sure I'm seeing any content that's worth upvoting. This is link to a GitHub Repo containing... A readme claiming to replace centos? So I followed the link from the issue that was asking donations, and it takes me to a GitHub account that outlines some goals, and a couple more repos for 2 versions of a Rocky Linux website. Am I missing something?
- Veen 6y ago
  You may be missing that the guy behind Rocky, Gregory Kurtzer, is the original founder of CentOS. He has some credibility in the field.
  - majesticmerc 6y ago
    Ah okay, thank you! I was indeed missing some context!
  - suifbwish 6y ago
    Sounds like a captain who’s men marooned on an island and is now looking seeking funding for a new pirate ship. How is it not somehow his fault that RedHat gained control of his first project?
    - Veen 6y ago
      My understanding is that he was forced out by some sort of community disfunction in 2005, long before Red Hat took charge.
      - gmkurtzer 6y ago
        This is accurate and that community disfunction will not happen again. In the process of creating "The Rocky Linux Foundation" which will be a non-profit organization which will "own" and maintain the Rocky Linux project and assets. CentOS started off on the wrong foot, I made mistakes, and was naive and trusted the wrong people. Now I'm going back to the original vision, but ensuring that everything is setup properly, openly, and with integrity.
gabrielblack 6y ago
I was reading this post about the reasons of that: " Many of us have deployed CentOS servers to production environments, trusting Red Hat’s promise that CentOS 8 would be supported through 2029. The Red Hat announcement means that those installs reach end of life after less than 2 years, with the only upgrade path being Centos Stream — AKA being a forced beta tester for RHEL". https://hackaday.com/2020/12/09/centos-is-dead-long-live-centos/ https://hackaday.com/2020/12/09/centos-is-dead-long-live-cen...
Shared404 6y ago
Well, that didn't take long. What did RH expect? Why did they even bother buying CentOS in the first place?
ryanmjacobs 6y ago
Yes! I'm bookmarking this repo. As soon as there is a more concrete plan, I will definitely pledge my time to help out. I hope we all learned our lesson on this one -- let's not get acquired by RedHat/IBM this time around :) Three cheers for Kurtzer!
- Shared404 6y ago
  > let's not get acquired by RedHat/IBM this time around :) Does it not make sense to keep doing this and intentionally get acquired? As long as the contract doesn't forbid you from making another community fork, it seems like free money to me. (Have never personally contributed to RHEL/CentOS, so no skin in the game. Probably I'm wrong.)
- gmkurtzer 6y ago
  Thanks but no need for cheers. I've learned some hard lessons over the years. This time, it will stay in the community, right where it belongs. Thank you for your support. Things are moving fast and we are looking forward to our first release, so stay tuned!
ryanmjacobs 6y ago
Looks like they've got a solid team put together already :) https://github.com/rocky-linux/organization/wiki/Contributing https://github.com/rocky-linux/organization/wiki/Contributin...
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steviedotboston 6y ago
Other than not being affiliated with Oracle, how will this differ from Oracle Linux?
- majkinetor 6y ago
  Not being affiliated with Oracle is totally enough.

86 points by varbhat 6y ago

Rocky Linux is a community enterprise Operating System designed to be 100% bug-for-bug compatible with Red Hat Enterprise Linux now that CentOS has shifted direction - CentOS founder Gregory Kurtzer to start new rebuild of RHEL.

Tepix 6y ago

Very interesting. Quite a few commercial products are now based on CentOS as their main operating system. I wonder if they will switch to Rocky Linux as well. I believe the planned stream version of CentOS does not appeal to the need of many enterprises.

majesticmerc 6y ago

Forgive my cynicism... I'm not sure I'm seeing any content that's worth upvoting. This is link to a GitHub Repo containing... A readme claiming to replace centos? So I followed the link from the issue that was asking donations, and it takes me to a GitHub account that outlines some goals, and a couple more repos for 2 versions of a Rocky Linux website. Am I missing something?

Veen 6y ago
You may be missing that the guy behind Rocky, Gregory Kurtzer, is the original founder of CentOS. He has some credibility in the field.
- majesticmerc 6y ago
  Ah okay, thank you! I was indeed missing some context!
- suifbwish 6y ago
  Sounds like a captain who’s men marooned on an island and is now looking seeking funding for a new pirate ship. How is it not somehow his fault that RedHat gained control of his first project?
  - Veen 6y ago
    My understanding is that he was forced out by some sort of community disfunction in 2005, long before Red Hat took charge.
    - gmkurtzer 6y ago
      This is accurate and that community disfunction will not happen again. In the process of creating "The Rocky Linux Foundation" which will be a non-profit organization which will "own" and maintain the Rocky Linux project and assets. CentOS started off on the wrong foot, I made mistakes, and was naive and trusted the wrong people. Now I'm going back to the original vision, but ensuring that everything is setup properly, openly, and with integrity.

gabrielblack 6y ago

I was reading this post about the reasons of that: " Many of us have deployed CentOS servers to production environments, trusting Red Hat’s promise that CentOS 8 would be supported through 2029. The Red Hat announcement means that those installs reach end of life after less than 2 years, with the only upgrade path being Centos Stream — AKA being a forced beta tester for RHEL". https://hackaday.com/2020/12/09/centos-is-dead-long-live-centos/ https://hackaday.com/2020/12/09/centos-is-dead-long-live-cen...

Shared404 6y ago

Well, that didn't take long. What did RH expect? Why did they even bother buying CentOS in the first place?

ryanmjacobs 6y ago

Yes! I'm bookmarking this repo. As soon as there is a more concrete plan, I will definitely pledge my time to help out. I hope we all learned our lesson on this one -- let's not get acquired by RedHat/IBM this time around :) Three cheers for Kurtzer!

Shared404 6y ago
> let's not get acquired by RedHat/IBM this time around :) Does it not make sense to keep doing this and intentionally get acquired? As long as the contract doesn't forbid you from making another community fork, it seems like free money to me. (Have never personally contributed to RHEL/CentOS, so no skin in the game. Probably I'm wrong.)
gmkurtzer 6y ago
Thanks but no need for cheers. I've learned some hard lessons over the years. This time, it will stay in the community, right where it belongs. Thank you for your support. Things are moving fast and we are looking forward to our first release, so stay tuned!

ryanmjacobs 6y ago

Looks like they've got a solid team put together already :) https://github.com/rocky-linux/organization/wiki/Contributing https://github.com/rocky-linux/organization/wiki/Contributin...

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steviedotboston 6y ago

Other than not being affiliated with Oracle, how will this differ from Oracle Linux?

majkinetor 6y ago
Not being affiliated with Oracle is totally enough.