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> I wish the focus were more on new appetizing vegetarian recipes This exists, and continues happen, all around the world. People didnt stop cooking vegetarian

> I wish the focus were more on new appetizing vegetarian recipes This exists, and continues happen, all around the world. People didnt stop cooking vegetarian/vegan meals to make way for lab grown meat. "We" can do more than one thing at once!!

keiferski 6y ago
Of course, but my experience is that the Western world and America especially still hasn't quite grasped the idea of vegetarian meals being a default and not an alternative. The model seems to be, "How do we recreate a hamburger without it actually being a hamburger?" and not, "What great recipes are vegetarian without obviously intending to be?"
- therealx 6y ago
  I think you are referencing two different things. Expecting vegitarian meals to be the default wont happen for a long time. People like meat for a lot of reasons. However, lots of wonderful resturants and chefs are creating vegitarian and vegan food that in no way immitates meat based food. I also think, though, that if we can create lab grown meat that is identical to meat but doesn't involve suffering or enviornmental harm, that's a win. Most vegans I have polled would eat it, as long as their stomach could handle it.
  - keiferski 6y ago
    > I think you are referencing two different things. Expecting vegitarian meals to be the default wont happen for a long time. All I'm saying is that I wish this were the primary focus, as I think it's far more fruitful long-term.
    - madeofpalk 6y ago
      This is the primary focus for many restaurants. Go eat at better restaurants.
- jfengel 6y ago
  Well, recreating a hamburger without an animal having to suffer and die for it. People enjoy hamburgers. They just don't want to think about cows while they do. It might be better for their health and the environment if they learned to eat a wider variety of foods. Vegetarian food is incredibly diverse; more so than the fake diversity of putting 20 toppings in 2^20 different combinations on top of ground beef. But that's not nearly as strong as cognitive dissonance people have to sustain around knowing that animals suffer and die for their dinner.

keiferski 6y ago

Of course, but my experience is that the Western world and America especially still hasn't quite grasped the idea of vegetarian meals being a default and not an alternative. The model seems to be, "How do we recreate a hamburger without it actually being a hamburger?" and not, "What great recipes are vegetarian without obviously intending to be?"

therealx 6y ago
I think you are referencing two different things. Expecting vegitarian meals to be the default wont happen for a long time. People like meat for a lot of reasons. However, lots of wonderful resturants and chefs are creating vegitarian and vegan food that in no way immitates meat based food. I also think, though, that if we can create lab grown meat that is identical to meat but doesn't involve suffering or enviornmental harm, that's a win. Most vegans I have polled would eat it, as long as their stomach could handle it.
- keiferski 6y ago
  > I think you are referencing two different things. Expecting vegitarian meals to be the default wont happen for a long time. All I'm saying is that I wish this were the primary focus, as I think it's far more fruitful long-term.
  - madeofpalk 6y ago
    This is the primary focus for many restaurants. Go eat at better restaurants.
jfengel 6y ago
Well, recreating a hamburger without an animal having to suffer and die for it. People enjoy hamburgers. They just don't want to think about cows while they do. It might be better for their health and the environment if they learned to eat a wider variety of foods. Vegetarian food is incredibly diverse; more so than the fake diversity of putting 20 toppings in 2^20 different combinations on top of ground beef. But that's not nearly as strong as cognitive dissonance people have to sustain around knowing that animals suffer and die for their dinner.