I agree with the sentiment and I don’t use Clojure as much as I did, partly for that reason. I do recall Clojure/Quil being faster than Rust/Nannou in terms of

I agree with the sentiment and I don’t use Clojure as much as I did, partly for that reason. I do recall Clojure/Quil being faster than Rust/Nannou in terms of the feedback loop, because once you’re running a REPL and you start to change and tweak things you can re-evaluate them live in the context of the running sketch. Neither offers as fast a feedback loop as JS/P5.js, though, and for me Quokka gives much of the benefit of Clojure’s REPL but with less setup, faster boot, and consistency between editors.