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> Trying to hijack DNS is only useful when you control the network but neither the client or server. This is a very common scenario in retail and SME businesse
by yardstick 6y ago
> Trying to hijack DNS is only useful when you control the network but neither the client or server.
This is a very common scenario in retail and SME businesses where you can’t control the on site hardware, eg fuel pumps or CCTV or cash registers or footfall counters or vending machines or whatever, and you can’t control what IPs they talk to. But you still have an obligation to minimise their network access.
Unfortunately they use services hosted on the cloud in dynamic IPs, so you either need to MITM TLS (can’t, no way to change the trusted CA list in these devices), or you need to MITM DNS / SNI. It’s not perfect security, and ideally the business simply wouldn’t buy such poorly securable products, but technology decisions are very rarely vetoed by security considerations, especially when cost is a factor. This is an example of the appropriate level of security for the business risk appetite. Telling the business to buy products that can be locked down perfectly is normally a non-starter.
- acdha 6y agoAgain, though, this is only forcing them to understand how their network has always worked rather than changing the situation. If the vendor chooses to bypass the local DNS, you won’t know about it no matter whether DoH exists.