You can use them as Bluetooth headphones or via the Lightning-to-3.5mm cable. I doubt anyone will buy any of the Apple audio products specifically for non-ecos

You can use them as Bluetooth headphones or via the Lightning-to-3.5mm cable. I doubt anyone will buy any of the Apple audio products specifically for non-ecosystem devices. My guess is more folks decide to leave the ecosystem and end up using them elsewhere down the road.