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On the other hand, Word never has compiler errors.

gus_massa 6y ago
I guess you never wrote a long document in Word full of equations that become unreadable at 6am a few hours before the deadline. (IIRC the automatic backup was readable, and I recovered most of the work from there. But one of the equations was cursed, and I had to delete and rewrite it. (I probably had a handmade backup, just in case, but it was a few hours old.))
sam_bristow 6y ago
using microsoft word moves an image 1 mm to the left all text and images shift. 4 new pages appear. in the distance, sirens
- tomjen3 6y ago
  My guess is that people struggle more with Image placement in LaTeX by a huge margin. It is typically because they have the wrong mental model of how image placement should work. Floats are floating for a reason.
  - rualca 6y ago
    > My guess is that people struggle more with Image placement in LaTeX by a huge margin. You should guess again. With LaTeX the biggest problem with images is seeig them reflow in a place you wasn't expecting because you did not paid attention to what you actually did. With Word, you even have to fight it to not put images and their image captions on separate pages. More importantly, with LaTeX the worst you get with images is them looking nice and neat in some other part of the text, maybe at the end of a section or with a single paragraph between them. With Word it's on par for the course to get your whole doc screwed up just because the image reflowed to the next page.
    - gamblor956 6y ago
      With Word, you even have to fight it to not put images and their image captions on separate pages. You keep saying this, and this has simply not been true since Word 2007. You keep captions on the same page as their respective pictures using the same method you keep all lines of a paragraph on the same page: Keep with Next in Paragraph options. If a caption (or picture) still flows onto the next page, that is because it simply won't fit into the page without resizing the picture or changing the page margins.
      - tapia 6y ago
        I disagree. This still happens today. I am a latex user but occasionally have to work in a word document and these kind of problems keep occurring.
mhh__ 6y ago
Neither does JavaScript? JS 1 - Haskell 0
qball 6y ago
Word has compiler errors, and it even has bugs in its compiler sometimes (Word 2007 has one where it needed a character to show a table cell when that cell contained nothing but a certain kind of image; this was fixed in Word 2010+ but not there). This is only really relevant if you're generating Word documents programatically from other data sources (it's very easy to do this with the MS-provided tools which can auto-generate code-behind for programs that need to make documents like this), but it's entirely possible to end up with invalid OOXML that means the document doesn't load. Some are recoverable, some aren't.

I guess you never wrote a long document in Word full of equations that become unreadable at 6am a few hours before the deadline. (IIRC the automatic backup was readable, and I recovered most of the work from there. But one of the equations was cursed, and I had to delete and rewrite it. (I probably had a handmade backup, just in case, but it was a few hours old.))

sam_bristow 6y ago

using microsoft word moves an image 1 mm to the left all text and images shift. 4 new pages appear. in the distance, sirens

tomjen3 6y ago
My guess is that people struggle more with Image placement in LaTeX by a huge margin. It is typically because they have the wrong mental model of how image placement should work. Floats are floating for a reason.
- rualca 6y ago
  > My guess is that people struggle more with Image placement in LaTeX by a huge margin. You should guess again. With LaTeX the biggest problem with images is seeig them reflow in a place you wasn't expecting because you did not paid attention to what you actually did. With Word, you even have to fight it to not put images and their image captions on separate pages. More importantly, with LaTeX the worst you get with images is them looking nice and neat in some other part of the text, maybe at the end of a section or with a single paragraph between them. With Word it's on par for the course to get your whole doc screwed up just because the image reflowed to the next page.
  - gamblor956 6y ago
    With Word, you even have to fight it to not put images and their image captions on separate pages. You keep saying this, and this has simply not been true since Word 2007. You keep captions on the same page as their respective pictures using the same method you keep all lines of a paragraph on the same page: Keep with Next in Paragraph options. If a caption (or picture) still flows onto the next page, that is because it simply won't fit into the page without resizing the picture or changing the page margins.
    - tapia 6y ago
      I disagree. This still happens today. I am a latex user but occasionally have to work in a word document and these kind of problems keep occurring.

mhh__ 6y ago

Neither does JavaScript? JS 1 - Haskell 0

qball 6y ago

Word has compiler errors, and it even has bugs in its compiler sometimes (Word 2007 has one where it needed a character to show a table cell when that cell contained nothing but a certain kind of image; this was fixed in Word 2010+ but not there). This is only really relevant if you're generating Word documents programatically from other data sources (it's very easy to do this with the MS-provided tools which can auto-generate code-behind for programs that need to make documents like this), but it's entirely possible to end up with invalid OOXML that means the document doesn't load. Some are recoverable, some aren't.