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Sure, but if they didn’t want Apple this would be irrelevant. If you don’t want Apple, you only have Android regardless of whether Apple is stopped or not. Th
by zepto 6y ago
Sure, but if they didn’t want Apple this would be irrelevant.
If you don’t want Apple, you only have Android regardless of whether Apple is stopped or not.
That sentence is relevant to the meaning of the paragraph, and implies that they do want Apple.
- fsflover 6y ago> If you don’t want Apple, you only have Android regardless of whether Apple is stopped or not. No, there are also GNU/Linux phones.
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- zepto 6y agoQuoting you: “Because without Apple you only have Android.” https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25350315 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25350315
- fsflover 6y agoYes, unless you know about alternatives. This is why I commented in the first place.
- zepto 6y agoRight, but both of us believe that the OP didn’t know about the alternatives, so they clearly were saying they did want Apple. If you want to claim that they would change their mind about wanting Apple if they knew about the alternatives, that is unlikely but not impossible. However when they made the comment, they clearly did want Apple because otherwise they wouldn’t have cared about whether anyone ‘stopped Apple’.
- fsflover 6y agoThey might also choose Apple, since otherwise it would be Android (i.e., even worse). Apple has a lot of drawbacks too after all. This is not what I would consider "wanting", it's a forced choice (just like choosing Android when Apple is "stopped" would be).
- zepto 6y agoThat’s not a real distinction. There are always a finite number of platforms to choose from and they all always have drawbacks so any choice of platform can be arbitrarily deemed ‘forced’ by this logic. The distinction therefore has no meaning, and doesn’t change the implication that the OP wanted Apple.
- fsflover 6y agoDuopoly is not the same as "a finite number of platforms to choose". Duopoly means both companies can restrict the rights of users and stay in business, despite the users may not like them.
- zepto 6y agoThat doesn’t change anything that supports the claim that this was a forced choice and therefore the OP didn’t ‘want’ Apple. No finite number of businesses is guaranteed to produce a product to a given person’s liking, duopoly or not. In any case, according to you, GNU/Linux phones are an option, so it’s not a duopoly. Also, let’s note that you’ve conceded they they do want Apple, but are now trying to make the case that this isn’t a ‘real’ kind of want.
- fsflover 6y agoYes, it does change something. I know many people who hate both companies, but choose Apple as a lesser evil. And yes, this is exactly not a 'real' kind of want. Given that, and that the OP didn't say they like Apple, you cannot neglect a poosibility of them not wanting Apple.