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> some law that can be used to force TikTok and other companies to respect user privacy and store data safety. The US has basic no laws What makes you think Ti

by tomp 6y ago

> some law that can be used to force TikTok and other companies to respect user privacy and store data safety. The US has basic no laws What makes you think TikTok / China would abide by such a law, if there was one?

yibg 6y ago
Laws are only useful if they are enforced. If TikTok break said laws then action can be taken against them just like against anyone that breaks laws. If there are no laws in place at all, what’s the punishment for.
pjc50 6y ago
Pretty much everywhere complies with the Magnitsky Act. It would also provide a legal process for action against third parties like the app stores.
KingMachiavelli 6y ago
The law would really just be to get American/western companies all on the same ground with regards to data security. At least with that we can object to China's practices with a straight face and Western countries would have a united front. In reality the CCP would be incapable of adhering to the law since it conflicts with their own laws about being able to review and monitor communications. But the difference is our objection would material and apply broadly rather than the case by case depending on the mood of the Executive branch. If the law existed, the sale of Musical.ly would have never happened at least in the same manner. Most likely it would have been strong armed into Reddit/Tencent arrangement where it's only an exchange of capital & equity.
beaunative 6y ago
China doesn't and can't abide US law as a country. TikTok, however, like every other private entity operating in the US does need to abide by laws for the protection it afforded under the law or should they face consequences.
- tomp 6y ago
  No, I mean more like, if what the US Govt is alleging is true - that TikTok is siphoning data to Chinese military/security agencies (hence “national security threat”) that would definitely still be possible even if there were data protection laws - after all, the point of spying is that it’s generally illegal.
  - justicezyx 6y ago
    > TikTok is siphoning data to Chinese military/security agencies (hence “national security threat”) that would definitely still be possible even if there were data protection laws Think it rationally, if there is any slight hint of that happening, you think Trump would not release it and amplify the claim 10x?...

by tomp 6y ago

yibg 6y ago

Laws are only useful if they are enforced. If TikTok break said laws then action can be taken against them just like against anyone that breaks laws. If there are no laws in place at all, what’s the punishment for.

pjc50 6y ago

Pretty much everywhere complies with the Magnitsky Act. It would also provide a legal process for action against third parties like the app stores.

KingMachiavelli 6y ago

The law would really just be to get American/western companies all on the same ground with regards to data security. At least with that we can object to China's practices with a straight face and Western countries would have a united front. In reality the CCP would be incapable of adhering to the law since it conflicts with their own laws about being able to review and monitor communications. But the difference is our objection would material and apply broadly rather than the case by case depending on the mood of the Executive branch. If the law existed, the sale of Musical.ly would have never happened at least in the same manner. Most likely it would have been strong armed into Reddit/Tencent arrangement where it's only an exchange of capital & equity.

beaunative 6y ago

China doesn't and can't abide US law as a country. TikTok, however, like every other private entity operating in the US does need to abide by laws for the protection it afforded under the law or should they face consequences.

tomp 6y ago
No, I mean more like, if what the US Govt is alleging is true - that TikTok is siphoning data to Chinese military/security agencies (hence “national security threat”) that would definitely still be possible even if there were data protection laws - after all, the point of spying is that it’s generally illegal.
- justicezyx 6y ago
  > TikTok is siphoning data to Chinese military/security agencies (hence “national security threat”) that would definitely still be possible even if there were data protection laws Think it rationally, if there is any slight hint of that happening, you think Trump would not release it and amplify the claim 10x?...