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As a principal software engineer that works on Fuchsia, I can assure you that the project does not exist solely to retain me. :)
by abarth 6y ago
As a principal software engineer that works on Fuchsia, I can assure you that the project does not exist solely to retain me. :)
- jacobush 6y ago... but also your colleagues?
- suchire 6y agoNot solely, but in part? ;-)
- swetland 6y agoCongrats on the promo! It didn't retain me (though I didn't get promoted to Principal, so maybe I don't count) but I did enjoy working on Fuchsia. Nice to see much of the syscall design seems to have survived.
- abarth 6y agoThanks! Yes, your ideas are alive and well in the project.
- wmf 6y agoSince you're here, "abarth", it took me several clicks to get to the OWNERS file and all I saw was a list of email addresses. Calling that "governance" is... could we at least get some names and maybe brief bios on these people?
- abarth 6y agoI understand where you're coming from, but that ends up being an inclusion issue in the project. I'm comfortable having my name and bio "out there" on the Internet, but I recognize that's a privilege. Not everyone who contributes to the project will be comfortable doing that.
- evil-olive 6y agoThe OWNERS file is typically used, sometimes by automated tooling, to answer the "who should I ask to code review these changes?" question. https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/docs/code_reviews.md https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/docs/c... https://docs.github.com/en/free-pro-team@latest/github/creating-cloning-and-archiving-repositories/about-code-owners https://docs.github.com/en/free-pro-team@latest/github/creat... https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/code_owners.html https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/code_owners.html It's not meant to be a place for developer bios. If for no other reason than one developer could appear in many OWNERS files scattered throughout a repo, or in multiple repos, and keeping the bio current across all of them would be a nightmare.
- wmf 6y agoLet me add some context. I was looking at the governance links on the site and found https://fuchsia.dev/fuchsia-src/contribute/governance/eng_council https://fuchsia.dev/fuchsia-src/contribute/governance/eng_co... which at the bottom simply says "The current members of the Fuchsia Eng Council are listed in this OWNERS file." I think it would improve the transparency/accountability of the project to have more than a list of email addresses here.
- asadlionpk 6y agoProbably not in the OWNERS file though, as it’s a machine-consumable file, heavy used inside and outside google for automation.
- raphlinus 6y agoCongrats on the promo! It didn't quite retain me either, but I was a lowly staff software engineer. I am returning to Google though (back to the Google Fonts team), and it's entirely possible we'll get a chance to work together again.
- baybal2 6y agoAdam, how much were you involved in drafting this manifest?
- abarth 6y agoI'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you mean by "this manifest." The blog post linked above was written by Wayne Piekarski, who is a Developer Advocate for Fuchsia. My role in the project is as a software engineer.
- asadawadia 6y agoWhat was your journey to principal?