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Yeah, the Silly Valley bubble doesn't realize how the rest of the world lives. In my third world country they're still selling _new_ (straight from the factory,

Yeah, the Silly Valley bubble doesn't realize how the rest of the world lives. In my third world country they're still selling _new_ (straight from the factory, this year's models) laptops with 4 GBs of RAM. Most models still come with 8 GBs of RAM (and most of them cost above of what I make in a month, and I pull a relatively decent paycheck). You get the idea.

jcelerier 6y ago
> In my third world country they're still selling _new_ (straight from the factory, this year's models) laptops with 4 GBs of RAM I live in France and there are 4GB here too: https://www.ldlc.com/informatique/ordinateur-portable/pc-portable/c4265/+fi395-l4h4.html https://www.ldlc.com/informatique/ordinateur-portable/pc-por... hell, in one of the biggest online retailers, the second biggest category is 2 gigabytes (number in parentheses is the number of laptop models available with that ram amount) https://imgur.com/a/LL8H7aP https://imgur.com/a/LL8H7aP
lambda_obrien 6y ago
If I run more than two "browsers" my laptop slows to a crawl (I am in the USA, but I don't have the money for fancy stuff), so I have to decide to run Firefox (main browser), Chromium (test browser), VSCODE (IDE "browser"), or one of the other 50 "browsers" I have installed. Usually I have to run all of the above 3 when working, so I end up using OS tools to "freeze" the process of whichever "browser" I am not using at the time, but it causes problems. I would be super happy if I could run several similar engines under one main process, I don't care as much about security concerns when I'm developing my own software, and would not mind some "intraprocess security holes" if I could reduce my memory footprint like that and then turn it off when I want the "security holes" to be closed again.
thebigspacefuck 6y ago
It’s not as bad these days with SSDs
- stjohnswarts 6y ago
  Actually it is, SSD does help a little bit with swapping for disk I/O if RAM gets full but in general keeping the app in RAM is much much faster than even SSD. Electron absolutely chews up RAM like crazy compared to just about every c++ based GUI I've ever used. I just thought I'd let you know that.
  - stef-13013 6y ago
    Yes, and stuff like pyside2 are pretty cool too (for people who don't like C++)

jcelerier 6y ago

> In my third world country they're still selling _new_ (straight from the factory, this year's models) laptops with 4 GBs of RAM I live in France and there are 4GB here too: https://www.ldlc.com/informatique/ordinateur-portable/pc-portable/c4265/+fi395-l4h4.html https://www.ldlc.com/informatique/ordinateur-portable/pc-por... hell, in one of the biggest online retailers, the second biggest category is 2 gigabytes (number in parentheses is the number of laptop models available with that ram amount) https://imgur.com/a/LL8H7aP https://imgur.com/a/LL8H7aP

lambda_obrien 6y ago

If I run more than two "browsers" my laptop slows to a crawl (I am in the USA, but I don't have the money for fancy stuff), so I have to decide to run Firefox (main browser), Chromium (test browser), VSCODE (IDE "browser"), or one of the other 50 "browsers" I have installed. Usually I have to run all of the above 3 when working, so I end up using OS tools to "freeze" the process of whichever "browser" I am not using at the time, but it causes problems. I would be super happy if I could run several similar engines under one main process, I don't care as much about security concerns when I'm developing my own software, and would not mind some "intraprocess security holes" if I could reduce my memory footprint like that and then turn it off when I want the "security holes" to be closed again.

thebigspacefuck 6y ago

It’s not as bad these days with SSDs

stjohnswarts 6y ago
Actually it is, SSD does help a little bit with swapping for disk I/O if RAM gets full but in general keeping the app in RAM is much much faster than even SSD. Electron absolutely chews up RAM like crazy compared to just about every c++ based GUI I've ever used. I just thought I'd let you know that.
- stef-13013 6y ago
  Yes, and stuff like pyside2 are pretty cool too (for people who don't like C++)