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Founder, Stadia Maps here. We're looking into this, as well as trying to build consensus with the other map vendors on how to approach it. If you're a vendor

Founder, Stadia Maps here. We're looking into this, as well as trying to build consensus with the other map vendors on how to approach it. If you're a vendor and what to be part of it, email me (luke at stadiamaps.com).

zylepe 6y ago
Glad to see this. I’m a long time mapbox gl js user for https://onthegomap.com https://onthegomap.com which costs $300-400 per month for running my own graphhopper routing servers and Stadia Maps tile hosting. It would cost over $3000 per month to upgrade to 2.0 and I have no need for 3D. I also use mapbox gl js for visualizing large datasets locally (precomoute vector tiles from non-geographic datasets), which doesn’t seems like it needs to be reaching out to mapbox servers. Happy to help, I’ve had a few pull requests accepted to the mapbox gl js codebase.
- chrisdalke 6y ago
  I use your site all the time to measure running routes - Thanks for the great work!
- kevinob11 6y ago
  I love your site, thank you for building it!
- durkie 6y ago
  side question: who are you using for satellite imagery? I see them being served from ArcGIS but can't find a tile service offering from them.
  - zylepe 6y ago
    Yes, ArcGIS World Imagery https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=10df2279f9684e4a9f6a7f08febac2a9 https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=10df2279f9684e4a9f6... - from everything I can gather in their docs and talking with sales reps, it is fine to use with proper attribution, which took a bit of work to update dynamically as you pan to different regions.
- ThomasG77 6y ago
  Switch to OpenLayers e.g https://openlayers.org/en/latest/examples/index.html?q=mapbox https://openlayers.org/en/latest/examples/index.html?q=mapbo... (the example can use Mapbox but any vector tiles styles are fine). It can consume Mapbox GL JS styles if using ol-mapbox-style project https://www.npmjs.com/package/ol-mapbox-style#olms https://www.npmjs.com/package/ol-mapbox-style#olms. A bit slower but except this, most of the things are supported. PS: fine if you don't use 3D
- everybodyknows 6y ago
  Any plans for monetization you can share? $300-400 per month seems an expensive gift to the public ...
  - zylepe 6y ago
    The site shows google ads when the screen is big enough, luckily that covers the monthly hosting costs. Would definitely like to find a value-adding (rather than reducing) way to cover the costs though. I've been thinking about adding an account system where you can save a couple routes for free and unlimited with a subscription, along with other "premium" features, but haven't finalized anything yet. Definitely open to suggestions :-)
    - Doctor_Fegg 6y ago
      I've found Patreon works well for my site (cycle.travel).
sroussey 6y ago
Doesn’t deck.gl also use map box? What are they doing?
- lukeqsee 6y ago
  It looks like they integrate with it, but don't require it directly.
- kylebarron 6y ago
  deck.gl is completely independent from Mapbox and Mapbox GL JS. You can use it with Google Maps, for example; most people used it with Mapbox because it was the most advanced open source basemap available. We'll probably end up removing Mapbox from the deck.gl examples, but I can't say for sure.
  - etimberg 6y ago
    Are you sure? Deck.gl depends on react-map-gl [0] which depends on mapbox-gl [1] 0. https://github.com/visgl/deck.gl/blob/79699960e7e24daef1107426706fab934b1917af/package.json#L71 https://github.com/visgl/deck.gl/blob/79699960e7e24daef11074... 1. https://github.com/visgl/react-map-gl/blob/aae80369ed106f5c66aa4e657aa3fcac119336c9/package.json#L48 https://github.com/visgl/react-map-gl/blob/aae80369ed106f5c6...
    - kylebarron 6y ago
      Yes, I'm a maintainer of deck.gl. That's a development dependency, not a runtime dependency. You have the option of using deck.gl completely standalone [0], or integrations are provided for Google Maps and Mapbox GL JS [1] [0]: https://deck.gl/examples/tile-layer/ https://deck.gl/examples/tile-layer/ [1]: https://deck.gl/docs/get-started/using-with-map https://deck.gl/docs/get-started/using-with-map
      - etimberg 6y ago
        Cool, thanks for the clarification!
curran_ 6y ago
Where's the active OSS fork? Surely one will shake out of all this.
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zylepe 6y ago

Glad to see this. I’m a long time mapbox gl js user for https://onthegomap.com https://onthegomap.com which costs $300-400 per month for running my own graphhopper routing servers and Stadia Maps tile hosting. It would cost over $3000 per month to upgrade to 2.0 and I have no need for 3D. I also use mapbox gl js for visualizing large datasets locally (precomoute vector tiles from non-geographic datasets), which doesn’t seems like it needs to be reaching out to mapbox servers. Happy to help, I’ve had a few pull requests accepted to the mapbox gl js codebase.

chrisdalke 6y ago
I use your site all the time to measure running routes - Thanks for the great work!
kevinob11 6y ago
I love your site, thank you for building it!
durkie 6y ago
side question: who are you using for satellite imagery? I see them being served from ArcGIS but can't find a tile service offering from them.
- zylepe 6y ago
  Yes, ArcGIS World Imagery https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=10df2279f9684e4a9f6a7f08febac2a9 https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=10df2279f9684e4a9f6... - from everything I can gather in their docs and talking with sales reps, it is fine to use with proper attribution, which took a bit of work to update dynamically as you pan to different regions.
ThomasG77 6y ago
Switch to OpenLayers e.g https://openlayers.org/en/latest/examples/index.html?q=mapbox https://openlayers.org/en/latest/examples/index.html?q=mapbo... (the example can use Mapbox but any vector tiles styles are fine). It can consume Mapbox GL JS styles if using ol-mapbox-style project https://www.npmjs.com/package/ol-mapbox-style#olms https://www.npmjs.com/package/ol-mapbox-style#olms. A bit slower but except this, most of the things are supported. PS: fine if you don't use 3D
everybodyknows 6y ago
Any plans for monetization you can share? $300-400 per month seems an expensive gift to the public ...
- zylepe 6y ago
  The site shows google ads when the screen is big enough, luckily that covers the monthly hosting costs. Would definitely like to find a value-adding (rather than reducing) way to cover the costs though. I've been thinking about adding an account system where you can save a couple routes for free and unlimited with a subscription, along with other "premium" features, but haven't finalized anything yet. Definitely open to suggestions :-)
  - Doctor_Fegg 6y ago
    I've found Patreon works well for my site (cycle.travel).

sroussey 6y ago

Doesn’t deck.gl also use map box? What are they doing?

lukeqsee 6y ago
It looks like they integrate with it, but don't require it directly.
kylebarron 6y ago
deck.gl is completely independent from Mapbox and Mapbox GL JS. You can use it with Google Maps, for example; most people used it with Mapbox because it was the most advanced open source basemap available. We'll probably end up removing Mapbox from the deck.gl examples, but I can't say for sure.
- etimberg 6y ago
  Are you sure? Deck.gl depends on react-map-gl [0] which depends on mapbox-gl [1] 0. https://github.com/visgl/deck.gl/blob/79699960e7e24daef1107426706fab934b1917af/package.json#L71 https://github.com/visgl/deck.gl/blob/79699960e7e24daef11074... 1. https://github.com/visgl/react-map-gl/blob/aae80369ed106f5c66aa4e657aa3fcac119336c9/package.json#L48 https://github.com/visgl/react-map-gl/blob/aae80369ed106f5c6...
  - kylebarron 6y ago
    Yes, I'm a maintainer of deck.gl. That's a development dependency, not a runtime dependency. You have the option of using deck.gl completely standalone [0], or integrations are provided for Google Maps and Mapbox GL JS [1] [0]: https://deck.gl/examples/tile-layer/ https://deck.gl/examples/tile-layer/ [1]: https://deck.gl/docs/get-started/using-with-map https://deck.gl/docs/get-started/using-with-map
    - etimberg 6y ago
      Cool, thanks for the clarification!

curran_ 6y ago

Where's the active OSS fork? Surely one will shake out of all this.

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