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Well, that sucks. I've been a happy Mapbox GL JS user for years, hosting my own tiles and not using their service at all. I even had a few (very small) pull r

Well, that sucks. I've been a happy Mapbox GL JS user for years, hosting my own tiles and not using their service at all. I even had a few (very small) pull requests accepted into the project. Hopefully the OSS community can maintain a fork of the 1.x codebase. -edit- The FAQ says developers can still use self hosted tiles, but also says that usage is now billed per map load, and "a map load occurs whenever a Map object is initialized on a webpage. Each map load includes unlimited vector tiles, raster tiles, and terrain tiles for the length of the map session.". To me that sound like while I can still use my own map tiles, it would still costs the same as if I used Mapbox hosted tiles.

lukeqsee 6y ago
> To me that sound like while I can still use my own map tiles, it would still costs the same as if I used Mapbox hosted tiles. That's my reading of it, as well. Even though it's somewhat expected on the data collection side, it's decidedly unexpected that they not only require ToS acceptance, but also licensing fees for what used to be entirely free, OSS software. > Hopefully the OSS community can maintain a fork of the 1.x codebase. I'm sure this will happen. My company is trying to get some consensus around the best way to proceed. Email in bio if you're interested in taking part!
- josephcsible 6y ago
  Hopefully the fork will be GPL, so Mapbox won't be able to steal all of the work the new developers do and release it in their new proprietary product.
  - anamexis 6y ago
    Why not? Mapbox has been allowing us to steal the work of their developers and release it in our proprietary products up until this point.
    - josephcsible 6y ago
      Because if they can take all of the improvements from the fork, but the fork can't take any of their improvements, the fork will wither and die.
      - Doctor_Fegg 6y ago
        That's not the case. There is already a massive ecosystem around MVT (vector tiles) that needs an open source renderer. Mapbox GL can have all the bells and whistles it wants, but since it's still tied to Mapbox's SaaS pricing, it's not a viable alternative for that ecosystem.
- klokan 6y ago
  The https://github.com/openmaptiles/gl-js https://github.com/openmaptiles/gl-js proposed as the primary shared repo for an open-source fork of the Mapbox GL JS 1.x codebase. Let's set autobuild of documentation, packages and configure CI on pull requests. Pull requests, forks & contributions welcome - as on other parts of the https://openmaptiles.org/ https://openmaptiles.org/ project providing free and open-source vector tiles of entire world for self-hosting.
  - murphy214 6y ago
    LOL haven't you guys had enough legal trouble with Mapbox already ;) In all seriousness I completely agree as someone in the mapping community this seems like a logical home. You have my vote!
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oliwarner 6y ago
Can't you just use the old version? Only the new code is under this new license.
- lukeqsee 6y ago
  Of course! And that's what everyone will keep doing for a while. However, without a maintained version, it will eventually wither from neglect.
  - ryantgtg 6y ago
    We're still using v0.47 on our project! Our use case is basic, and we like map rendering to be a set it and forget it deal. Since 0.47 I hadn't ever thought, "I wonder if there's an update." Of course, NOW I'm thinking about it. And I'm thinking of switching to leaflet.

lukeqsee 6y ago

> To me that sound like while I can still use my own map tiles, it would still costs the same as if I used Mapbox hosted tiles. That's my reading of it, as well. Even though it's somewhat expected on the data collection side, it's decidedly unexpected that they not only require ToS acceptance, but also licensing fees for what used to be entirely free, OSS software. > Hopefully the OSS community can maintain a fork of the 1.x codebase. I'm sure this will happen. My company is trying to get some consensus around the best way to proceed. Email in bio if you're interested in taking part!

josephcsible 6y ago
Hopefully the fork will be GPL, so Mapbox won't be able to steal all of the work the new developers do and release it in their new proprietary product.
- anamexis 6y ago
  Why not? Mapbox has been allowing us to steal the work of their developers and release it in our proprietary products up until this point.
  - josephcsible 6y ago
    Because if they can take all of the improvements from the fork, but the fork can't take any of their improvements, the fork will wither and die.
    - Doctor_Fegg 6y ago
      That's not the case. There is already a massive ecosystem around MVT (vector tiles) that needs an open source renderer. Mapbox GL can have all the bells and whistles it wants, but since it's still tied to Mapbox's SaaS pricing, it's not a viable alternative for that ecosystem.
klokan 6y ago
The https://github.com/openmaptiles/gl-js https://github.com/openmaptiles/gl-js proposed as the primary shared repo for an open-source fork of the Mapbox GL JS 1.x codebase. Let's set autobuild of documentation, packages and configure CI on pull requests. Pull requests, forks & contributions welcome - as on other parts of the https://openmaptiles.org/ https://openmaptiles.org/ project providing free and open-source vector tiles of entire world for self-hosting.
- murphy214 6y ago
  LOL haven't you guys had enough legal trouble with Mapbox already ;) In all seriousness I completely agree as someone in the mapping community this seems like a logical home. You have my vote!
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oliwarner 6y ago

Can't you just use the old version? Only the new code is under this new license.

lukeqsee 6y ago
Of course! And that's what everyone will keep doing for a while. However, without a maintained version, it will eventually wither from neglect.
- ryantgtg 6y ago
  We're still using v0.47 on our project! Our use case is basic, and we like map rendering to be a set it and forget it deal. Since 0.47 I hadn't ever thought, "I wonder if there's an update." Of course, NOW I'm thinking about it. And I'm thinking of switching to leaflet.