> Anyway, the issue for me is that these are supposed to be audiophile/professional grade headphones - something you buy explicitly because you want the best au

> Anyway, the issue for me is that these are supposed to be audiophile/professional grade headphones - something you buy explicitly because you want the best audio quality. No, they are not. It's unlikely professionals are buying any wireless headphones and professionals definitely don't want/ need ANC. These are headphones for people who want good quality sound and value the other features these offer. If you don't find the other features these offer appealing, they aren't worth the money. Almost every criticism of these pits them against top end wired audiophile headphones... that's not what these are primarily competing against.