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Well that sucks. Is this to try to clamp down on users circumventing subscriptions, or something else?

by brink 6y ago

lights0123 6y ago
The weird part is that you were always violating your contract with Mapbox by circumventing their billing code[0], so now you just have a copyright violation added on top of that. The way to bypass it is identical to what it was before. But, the big change is in their issue[1] they opened about it: > Can I still use self-hosted map tiles? > Yes. Developers simply need a Mapbox account and access token to use this v2. > > Can I use data or tiles from Google Maps or other non-Mapbox services? > Yes. GL JS is fully interoperable with third party map sources that provide vector or raster tiles in supported formats. Usage of v2 is billed by Map Load to the Mapbox account owner. The license terms make no distinction between data sources. They're charging for Mapbox GL JS, even if you don't actually use their tiles. [0]: https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-gl-js/blob/c7ed000f6d628531e0620df9d141dd6e2237477e/src/util/mapbox.js#L131 https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-gl-js/blob/c7ed000f6d628531... [1]: https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-gl-js/issues/10162 https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-gl-js/issues/10162
- tuukkah 6y ago
  People have been using the open source library without using any Mapbox data or APIs and thus within the terms. The map data is open data by the OpenStreetMap community etc. anyway.
pmeira 6y ago
I guess they don't like that people can generate their own vector tiles more easily nowadays, or services like Maptiler [0] (see [1] for some more context) that provide tiles at lower costs. [0]: https://www.maptiler.com/mapbox-alternative/ https://www.maptiler.com/mapbox-alternative/ [1]: https://www.maptiler.com/news/2020/05/the-future-of-openmaptiles-project/ https://www.maptiler.com/news/2020/05/the-future-of-openmapt...
- stevage 6y ago
  There really aren't many competing tile services. Maptiler isn't necessarily cheaper - it depends on the exact volume, and it has changed back and forth over the last couple of years as each party changes their pricing structure.

Well that sucks. Is this to try to clamp down on users circumventing subscriptions, or something else?

by brink 6y ago

Well that sucks. Is this to try to clamp down on users circumventing subscriptions, or something else?

The weird part is that you were always violating your contract with Mapbox by circumventing their billing code[0], so now you just have a copyright violation added on top of that. The way to bypass it is identical to what it was before. But, the big change is in their issue[1] they opened about it: > Can I still use self-hosted map tiles? > Yes. Developers simply need a Mapbox account and access token to use this v2. > > Can I use data or tiles from Google Maps or other non-Mapbox services? > Yes. GL JS is fully interoperable with third party map sources that provide vector or raster tiles in supported formats. Usage of v2 is billed by Map Load to the Mapbox account owner. The license terms make no distinction between data sources. They're charging for Mapbox GL JS, even if you don't actually use their tiles. [0]: https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-gl-js/blob/c7ed000f6d628531e0620df9d141dd6e2237477e/src/util/mapbox.js#L131 https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-gl-js/blob/c7ed000f6d628531... [1]: https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-gl-js/issues/10162 https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-gl-js/issues/10162

tuukkah 6y ago
People have been using the open source library without using any Mapbox data or APIs and thus within the terms. The map data is open data by the OpenStreetMap community etc. anyway.

pmeira 6y ago

I guess they don't like that people can generate their own vector tiles more easily nowadays, or services like Maptiler [0] (see [1] for some more context) that provide tiles at lower costs. [0]: https://www.maptiler.com/mapbox-alternative/ https://www.maptiler.com/mapbox-alternative/ [1]: https://www.maptiler.com/news/2020/05/the-future-of-openmaptiles-project/ https://www.maptiler.com/news/2020/05/the-future-of-openmapt...

stevage 6y ago
There really aren't many competing tile services. Maptiler isn't necessarily cheaper - it depends on the exact volume, and it has changed back and forth over the last couple of years as each party changes their pricing structure.