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It still fails at very basic driving activities - it’s L2 system, and is advertised as Tesla as such (driver needs to be ready to takeover at any moment). Very

• tachyonbeam 6y ago
  It's definitely bordering on Level 4 at this point. If you're claiming it's L2 then you simply have no idea what Tesla has been up to.
  • justapassenger 6y ago
    They’re not even at level 3 yet. Level 3 allows you to take your eyes off the road, and car will notify you if there’s something it cannot deal with, in advance. Tesla FSD will kill you if you do that. As I said, it’s very impressive for level 2. But just because it can do more stuff that any other publicly available l2 system, it doesn’t make it self driving system. And Tesla knows that. They’ve quietly walked back most of their claims. They used to advertise it as level 5, that you can go to sleep. Now they advertise FSD as system that requires full human attention, and only missing thing is auto steer on city streets.
    • tachyonbeam 6y ago
      The beta has steering on city streets, it handles roundabouts, merging, changing lanes, construction work, deers crossing the road, garbage trucks, etc. It can also handle about half of the 10-minute drives I've seen without disengagements, and when it does disengage, it's rarely in a dangerous position. You can call that L2 if you want, but I feel that's disingenuous. It's way ahead of anything anybody else has except Waymo, with the difference that Tesla's system will drive anywhere in the US. You can say, sure, but you still need to watch it all the time. Yeah, but the number of interventions that you need to make is becoming less and less.