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> 9/11 was special because nobody expected the towers to go down. Even so, universally, the safest choice in a disaster is to not be where the disaster is ASAP

> 9/11 was special because nobody expected the towers to go down. Even so, universally, the safest choice in a disaster is to not be where the disaster is ASAP. Similarly, in a mass shooting, "run away" is the first piece of advice. Hiding or fighting is only when that option isn't available.

hef19898 6y ago
The safest choice would be to stay put and wait for help. Always. Unless staying put is no option due to a clear and immenant threat. Because running away in case of an active shootin might put you in someones line of fire. Running down the stairs in a burning building might expose you to smoke and fumes. Or even fire, in case you do not know if you are above or below the fire. Or it might block emergency personel from reaching others needing help or from reaching the, e.g. fire. That being said, I think there was a discussion regarding the evacuation of burning skyscrapers after 9/11.
- ocdtrekkie 6y ago
  This is false. Especially in the active shooter case, where staying put is explicitly discouraged by all professional training on the matter: https://www.ready.gov/public-spaces https://www.ready.gov/public-spaces > Seek safety. Getting away from the attacker is the top priority. > If you can’t evacuate, cover and hide. This is generally true in most disaster scenarios. Staying is often "dying". If you are in a burning building, you should leave the burning building. If you are on a sinking ship, you actually should leave the sinking ship rather than go under inside it. Where ever the disaster is, get away from it.
  - pasabagi 6y ago
    YMMV. A friend of mine was recently in a fire, and several of her neighbors died because they tried to leave using the stairs, then succumbed to smoke inhalation. Everybody who stayed in their flats survived. I think it's awfully situational, but in the case of a fire, if you live in a house with decent fire standards (thick doors, fire-retardant insulation), I think you might be safer staying inside and waiting for a truck to come with a ladder. I would probably leave my flat through the window, with a rope. It's not terribly high, so if I mess up, I'd probably just break my legs.

hef19898 6y ago

The safest choice would be to stay put and wait for help. Always. Unless staying put is no option due to a clear and immenant threat. Because running away in case of an active shootin might put you in someones line of fire. Running down the stairs in a burning building might expose you to smoke and fumes. Or even fire, in case you do not know if you are above or below the fire. Or it might block emergency personel from reaching others needing help or from reaching the, e.g. fire. That being said, I think there was a discussion regarding the evacuation of burning skyscrapers after 9/11.

ocdtrekkie 6y ago
This is false. Especially in the active shooter case, where staying put is explicitly discouraged by all professional training on the matter: https://www.ready.gov/public-spaces https://www.ready.gov/public-spaces > Seek safety. Getting away from the attacker is the top priority. > If you can’t evacuate, cover and hide. This is generally true in most disaster scenarios. Staying is often "dying". If you are in a burning building, you should leave the burning building. If you are on a sinking ship, you actually should leave the sinking ship rather than go under inside it. Where ever the disaster is, get away from it.
- pasabagi 6y ago
  YMMV. A friend of mine was recently in a fire, and several of her neighbors died because they tried to leave using the stairs, then succumbed to smoke inhalation. Everybody who stayed in their flats survived. I think it's awfully situational, but in the case of a fire, if you live in a house with decent fire standards (thick doors, fire-retardant insulation), I think you might be safer staying inside and waiting for a truck to come with a ladder. I would probably leave my flat through the window, with a rope. It's not terribly high, so if I mess up, I'd probably just break my legs.