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I wouldn't say only far-right extremism is dangerous, any extremism that incites actions and contests reality is dangerous. Gnews (or atleast the Guo stuff) is

I wouldn't say only far-right extremism is dangerous, any extremism that incites actions and contests reality is dangerous. Gnews (or atleast the Guo stuff) is arguably not even far-right, most of their content is orthogonal to US left/right divisions and they just happen to be supportive of Trump as Trump is vocally anti-China (and because they allied with Bannon in the past year or so)

mistermann 6y ago
To clarify: have you modified your opinion on the matter such that you now no longer consider far right beliefs to be especially dangerous, but rather only note that they are one of many risks, and that the true risk in the system is unknown and largely unknowable due to the inherent complexity of a large chaotic system?
- helen___keller 6y ago
  > have you modified your opinion on the matter such that you now no longer consider far right beliefs to be especially dangerous, but rather only note that they are one of many risks This was always my belief. If you examine my original post[0] I do not even discuss left/right framing, your response to my post introduced it. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25345741 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25345741 > and that the true risk in the system is unknown and largely unknowable due to the inherent complexity of a large chaotic system I hadn't previously considered where the "true risk in the system" lies because my concerns with misinformation are more local (will my mother-in-law do something crazy this week?), but yes I would say that I think this is a reasonable assessment. If you're thinking of society as a system, then it is impossible to determine precisely which elements introduce risk of social instability/destruction for precisely the reason you mention.
  - mistermann 6y ago
    Ah, my mistake...I attributed a portion of the general topic to your comment (ah, the sweet irony)! Rather than far right, I actually meant the subculture that you (seemed) to be referring to. But your last response here well illustrates that you seem to appreciate the complexity (and uncertainty) of the system, which is the fundamental idea I was hoping to introduce into the memeplex.

mistermann 6y ago

To clarify: have you modified your opinion on the matter such that you now no longer consider far right beliefs to be especially dangerous, but rather only note that they are one of many risks, and that the true risk in the system is unknown and largely unknowable due to the inherent complexity of a large chaotic system?

helen___keller 6y ago
> have you modified your opinion on the matter such that you now no longer consider far right beliefs to be especially dangerous, but rather only note that they are one of many risks This was always my belief. If you examine my original post[0] I do not even discuss left/right framing, your response to my post introduced it. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25345741 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25345741 > and that the true risk in the system is unknown and largely unknowable due to the inherent complexity of a large chaotic system I hadn't previously considered where the "true risk in the system" lies because my concerns with misinformation are more local (will my mother-in-law do something crazy this week?), but yes I would say that I think this is a reasonable assessment. If you're thinking of society as a system, then it is impossible to determine precisely which elements introduce risk of social instability/destruction for precisely the reason you mention.
- mistermann 6y ago
  Ah, my mistake...I attributed a portion of the general topic to your comment (ah, the sweet irony)! Rather than far right, I actually meant the subculture that you (seemed) to be referring to. But your last response here well illustrates that you seem to appreciate the complexity (and uncertainty) of the system, which is the fundamental idea I was hoping to introduce into the memeplex.