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I've stated this is my worry with the BioNTech/Fosun vaccine - transporting it safely to Eastern Europe. They can't seem to transport frozen fish properly, I re

by bserge 6y ago

I've stated this is my worry with the BioNTech/Fosun vaccine - transporting it safely to Eastern Europe. They can't seem to transport frozen fish properly, I really hope they keep that vaccine in proper conditions, otherwise it'll be rendered useless...

ceejayoz 6y ago
It's likely the chain of custody for fish and critical medical supplies will be somewhat different.
- bserge 6y ago
  I can only hope so. They could very well outsource it to the usual transportation companies, and there isn't much accountability tbh. Oh well, if this one doesn't work, perhaps we can try again with the Oxford vaccine heh
  - ceejayoz 6y ago
    It travels in purpose-built shipping containers, so it shouldn't really matter what the trucker does. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-pfizer-distribution-logistical-nightmare/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-pfizer-distributi... > In order to get around that, Pfizer has developed specially built deep-freeze "suitcases" that can be tightly sealed and shipped even in non-refrigerated trucks. https://www.fiercepharma.com/manufacturing/pfizer-designed-new-container-and-plans-to-tap-shipping-companies-for-covid-19 https://www.fiercepharma.com/manufacturing/pfizer-designed-n... indicates they can hold temperature for ten days. They'll likely include seals and simple sensors to detect temperature excursions; for example, my daughter's growth hormone comes with a little piece of plastic that turns permanently pink if it's not stored at the right temperature for a few minutes.
    - bserge 6y ago
      Oh, very interesting. I'm mostly worried about last mile distribution, but yeah, they're not stupid, they took all the necessary measures.
  - watwut 6y ago
    You know, thinking fish and vaccine are treated the same does not show smart understanding of region. Honestly, it shows not understanding it at all. Not that vaccines are about to be flawless. But failure will be different.

by bserge 6y ago

ceejayoz 6y ago

It's likely the chain of custody for fish and critical medical supplies will be somewhat different.

bserge 6y ago
I can only hope so. They could very well outsource it to the usual transportation companies, and there isn't much accountability tbh. Oh well, if this one doesn't work, perhaps we can try again with the Oxford vaccine heh
- ceejayoz 6y ago
  It travels in purpose-built shipping containers, so it shouldn't really matter what the trucker does. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-pfizer-distribution-logistical-nightmare/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-pfizer-distributi... > In order to get around that, Pfizer has developed specially built deep-freeze "suitcases" that can be tightly sealed and shipped even in non-refrigerated trucks. https://www.fiercepharma.com/manufacturing/pfizer-designed-new-container-and-plans-to-tap-shipping-companies-for-covid-19 https://www.fiercepharma.com/manufacturing/pfizer-designed-n... indicates they can hold temperature for ten days. They'll likely include seals and simple sensors to detect temperature excursions; for example, my daughter's growth hormone comes with a little piece of plastic that turns permanently pink if it's not stored at the right temperature for a few minutes.
  - bserge 6y ago
    Oh, very interesting. I'm mostly worried about last mile distribution, but yeah, they're not stupid, they took all the necessary measures.
- watwut 6y ago
  You know, thinking fish and vaccine are treated the same does not show smart understanding of region. Honestly, it shows not understanding it at all. Not that vaccines are about to be flawless. But failure will be different.