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You edited out the first sentence which read: “Please don’t stop them.”
by zepto 6y ago
You edited out the first sentence which read: “Please don’t stop them.”
- fsflover 6y agoDoes this sentence change the meaning? The OP did not say they wanted Apple. They said they didn't want to be forced into Android. Of course, without Apple, in the absence of any other alternatives, you are forced into Android.
- zepto 6y agoYes it does. Clearly the OP wanted Apple, since otherwise they wouldn’t have made reference to ‘stopping Apple’ affecting them. If they didn’t want Apple, they wouldn’t care if Apple was stopped.
- fsflover 6y agoNo, it doesn't. The OP never said they wanted Apple. But without Apple you are forced into Android (because there's no other obvious choice) and this seems to be the problem.
- zepto 6y agoIn this explanation, you have neglected the meaning of the statement: “Please don’t stop them”. Why would they care about Apple being stopped if they didn’t want Apple? For your explanation to make sense you need to account for the meaning of both sentences of the paragraph the OP wrote.
- fsflover 6y ago> Why would they care about Apple being stopped if they didn’t want Apple? Because without Apple you only have Android.
- zepto 6y agoSure, but if they didn’t want Apple this would be irrelevant. If you don’t want Apple, you only have Android regardless of whether Apple is stopped or not. That sentence is relevant to the meaning of the paragraph, and implies that they do want Apple.
- fsflover 6y ago> If you don’t want Apple, you only have Android regardless of whether Apple is stopped or not. No, there are also GNU/Linux phones.
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- zepto 6y agoQuoting you: “Because without Apple you only have Android.” https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25350315 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25350315
- fsflover 6y agoYes, unless you know about alternatives. This is why I commented in the first place.
- zepto 6y agoRight, but both of us believe that the OP didn’t know about the alternatives, so they clearly were saying they did want Apple. If you want to claim that they would change their mind about wanting Apple if they knew about the alternatives, that is unlikely but not impossible. However when they made the comment, they clearly did want Apple because otherwise they wouldn’t have cared about whether anyone ‘stopped Apple’.
- fsflover 6y ago