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I've been using my pairs of Grados and Sennheisers for 20 years each. The Grados were $200 and the Sennheisers were $150. Apple has never been known for hitting

I've been using my pairs of Grados and Sennheisers for 20 years each. The Grados were $200 and the Sennheisers were $150. Apple has never been known for hitting audiophile quality, so even though we don't have reviews yet, they likely don't sound as good. Your Apple headphones will be in the trash in a few years and mine will still be delivering wonderful sound.

eldaisfish 6y ago
to the majority of apple's target consumer, none of this matters.
- mellavora 6y ago
  Some might disagree, and cheekily point out that apple's high-end customers care deeply about NOT having 20 year old gear. Because fashion.
- bitcharmer 6y ago
  Does this imply the majority of consumers care more about the brand perception than actual value? I mean, we all know apple fan-bois are vividly after the apple logo, but come on, there's still the majority of sensible people who put actual value higher than the show-off effect.
  - Throwaway1771 6y ago
    Where the hell are they, and why aren't they paying for quality home goods, cars, technology, etc?
  - oblio 6y ago
    > Does this imply the majority of consumers care more about the brand perception than actual value? YES. People are vain. News at 11. Stop betting against vanity.
molestrangler 6y ago
Been using my Grado RS2 headphones for around 18 years. Their repair service is excellent! Also I expect each Grado headphone to have a overall lower carbon footprint. I did notice the Apple website does not list the Frequency Response specs.
- dougmwne 6y ago
  I got a free repair from Grado about 13 years ago when someone stepped on my headphones. Other than that I've just worn out the ear foams a few times which are 2 seconds to replace. They're also still made in Brooklyn! I totally get how much engineering goes into the Apple products. There's also something beautiful about a completely passive headphone using a hundred year old connector technology made by a 67 year old company with a BIFL philosophy that is repairable and will never go obsolete. White and seamless is not the only kind of cool.

eldaisfish 6y ago

to the majority of apple's target consumer, none of this matters.

mellavora 6y ago
Some might disagree, and cheekily point out that apple's high-end customers care deeply about NOT having 20 year old gear. Because fashion.
bitcharmer 6y ago
Does this imply the majority of consumers care more about the brand perception than actual value? I mean, we all know apple fan-bois are vividly after the apple logo, but come on, there's still the majority of sensible people who put actual value higher than the show-off effect.
- Throwaway1771 6y ago
  Where the hell are they, and why aren't they paying for quality home goods, cars, technology, etc?
- oblio 6y ago
  > Does this imply the majority of consumers care more about the brand perception than actual value? YES. People are vain. News at 11. Stop betting against vanity.

molestrangler 6y ago

Been using my Grado RS2 headphones for around 18 years. Their repair service is excellent! Also I expect each Grado headphone to have a overall lower carbon footprint. I did notice the Apple website does not list the Frequency Response specs.

dougmwne 6y ago
I got a free repair from Grado about 13 years ago when someone stepped on my headphones. Other than that I've just worn out the ear foams a few times which are 2 seconds to replace. They're also still made in Brooklyn! I totally get how much engineering goes into the Apple products. There's also something beautiful about a completely passive headphone using a hundred year old connector technology made by a 67 year old company with a BIFL philosophy that is repairable and will never go obsolete. White and seamless is not the only kind of cool.