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> Honestly, I don't understand why you would buy these when there are a lot of established professional audio companies offering better sound at a cheaper price

> Honestly, I don't understand why you would buy these when there are a lot of established professional audio companies offering better sound at a cheaper price. Because it's Apple. The same reason people pay the Apple premium for anything else. It's the brand, the aesthetic, the ecosystem, and the signaling.

chrisseaton 6y ago
> The same reason people pay the Apple premium for anything else. It's the brand, the aesthetic, the ecosystem, and the signaling. Apple is high quality. You're trying to make it sound cynical and flimsy, but it's not. It's consistent demonstrated high quality.
- landryl 6y ago
  Just like the other brand cited in the original comment. He was pointing out what's different, and it's not the quality, it's the brand and ecosystem.
  - chrisseaton 6y ago
    Those brands don't have the excellent Bluetooth connectivity. It's not the same quality.
  - fatbird 6y ago
    It's not "the brand", it's his experience with the brand: he has a demonstrated trust in it based on his history with it. If the alternative is a day spent comparison shopping and researching, then an overage of $200 is actually pretty reasonable, as opportunity costs go.
- aphextron 6y ago
  >"Apple is high quality." Of course it is. But so is Sennheiser. People pay for the quality of Apple, but it's only part of the equation.
  - airstrike 6y ago
    Sennheiser doesn't integrate seamlessly with the iOS experience, though
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    - hyperdimension 6y ago
      That's because Apple had the courage to remove the headphone jack from the 'iOS experience' though.
  - chrisseaton 6y ago
    > But so is Sennheiser. I don't know that. I have Apple stuff already (like most people) and know it's high quality. Trying Sennheiser is taking a risk for me. I'd pay to not take that risk.
    - aphextron 6y ago
      >"I don't know that. I have Apple stuff already (like most people) and know it's high quality. Trying Sennheiser is taking a risk for me. I'd pay to not take that risk." Exactly. That's the whole point of a brand.
    - briankelly 6y ago
      I can't help but find this a little funny, because I consider Sennheiser the least risky purchase in the audiospace, but at the end of the day, the market for Senn is very different from the market for Apple. That point just typically falls on deaf ears in the audio crowd.
- ksk 6y ago
  Only some of Apple is quality, the rest is quality with quotes. The Apple's extended warranty program is worth billions, so is the repair industry fixing all the broken apple products. Heck they have yet to design a charging cable that doesn't fray. How is that quality?
jamesrcole 6y ago
Are there any other laptops with trackpads as good as the Apple ones? Maybe there are these days, I don’t know, but there definitely didn’t used to be.

chrisseaton 6y ago

> The same reason people pay the Apple premium for anything else. It's the brand, the aesthetic, the ecosystem, and the signaling. Apple is high quality. You're trying to make it sound cynical and flimsy, but it's not. It's consistent demonstrated high quality.

landryl 6y ago
Just like the other brand cited in the original comment. He was pointing out what's different, and it's not the quality, it's the brand and ecosystem.
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  Those brands don't have the excellent Bluetooth connectivity. It's not the same quality.
- fatbird 6y ago
  It's not "the brand", it's his experience with the brand: he has a demonstrated trust in it based on his history with it. If the alternative is a day spent comparison shopping and researching, then an overage of $200 is actually pretty reasonable, as opportunity costs go.
aphextron 6y ago
>"Apple is high quality." Of course it is. But so is Sennheiser. People pay for the quality of Apple, but it's only part of the equation.
- airstrike 6y ago
  Sennheiser doesn't integrate seamlessly with the iOS experience, though
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  - hyperdimension 6y ago
    That's because Apple had the courage to remove the headphone jack from the 'iOS experience' though.
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  > But so is Sennheiser. I don't know that. I have Apple stuff already (like most people) and know it's high quality. Trying Sennheiser is taking a risk for me. I'd pay to not take that risk.
  - aphextron 6y ago
    >"I don't know that. I have Apple stuff already (like most people) and know it's high quality. Trying Sennheiser is taking a risk for me. I'd pay to not take that risk." Exactly. That's the whole point of a brand.
  - briankelly 6y ago
    I can't help but find this a little funny, because I consider Sennheiser the least risky purchase in the audiospace, but at the end of the day, the market for Senn is very different from the market for Apple. That point just typically falls on deaf ears in the audio crowd.
ksk 6y ago
Only some of Apple is quality, the rest is quality with quotes. The Apple's extended warranty program is worth billions, so is the repair industry fixing all the broken apple products. Heck they have yet to design a charging cable that doesn't fray. How is that quality?

jamesrcole 6y ago

Are there any other laptops with trackpads as good as the Apple ones? Maybe there are these days, I don’t know, but there definitely didn’t used to be.