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Not sure how popular this opinion is among Bond nerds but as a general movie lover, I find Daniel Craig to be the best. Got mostly better storylines, best actio

Not sure how popular this opinion is among Bond nerds but as a general movie lover, I find Daniel Craig to be the best. Got mostly better storylines, best action scenes, looks fittest. Maybe he lacks the Sean Connery suave but the other things make up for it.

diegoperini 6y ago
I use to marathon Bond movies thinking about the same thing. It's probably because he has the more believable body size for the stunts he makes.
beerandt 6y ago
They might be the best action movies, but I don't consider them the best Bond movies, bc they're so different than every other Bond movie. They're a different genre all together. It's not that I don't like them, or even like them any less in general; I just have a hard time considering them to be Bond movies at all. They're so serious, even when being sarcastic and dry. They're not fun, and not something I probably would have been excited to binge watch as a kid, as the other ones are/were. I try hard to convince myself this is just temporal bias, but I'm less convinced the more I think about it. And I still can't wrap my head around the fact that Goldeneye and Casino were directed by the same person. I say this as someone who has 4 different actors in my top 5 Bond movie list, and none are Craig. So probably not a popular opinion- but also as someone who's never read any of the books, but seen every movie multiple times. Then again, I also consider Brave Little Toaster to be a better version of Toy Story 3, for almost opposite reasons, while I still consider TS3 to be objectively the best Pixar-formula movie made. (Unless counting the first 10 mins of Up as it's own entity.)
- jwalton 6y ago
  Yeah, I 100% agree. I heard an interview with Daniel Craig once where he said that they couldn't make Casion Royale as fun and playful as the originals, because of "Austin Powers". He said they would have had to walk a delicate line between parody/campy and fun, and they felt it wouldn't have worked. But now we don't get any new "real" Bond movies. :/
  - WorldMaker 6y ago
    Austin Powers borrowed a lot from the original Casino Royale (the 60s spoof version), and the classic 60s spoof duology In Like Flint/Our Man Flint (fun watches that still hold up; Austin Powers even directly name drops them). Those 60s spoofs didn't kill campy/fun James Bond, and also show us evidence of this sort of spoof/serious cycle in Bond (and elsewhere) is likely cyclical. If history is to judge, we're about to the point where Austin Powers flutters out of collective consciousness again and given the right actors/directors/producers the Bond movies can do fun stuff again.
  - beerandt 6y ago
    That's more excuse than argument, to me. I think that's basically an admission to packaging and marketing a new franchise under the Bond brand. Anyway, all the Bond movies were campy or felt B-movie-ish to some extent. Each actor did it in a different way, but they all did it. And don't forget that Moonraker exists. Which I love, but come on. The self-parody wasn't always explicit or obvious, but it was always blatantly there. Running on alligators, breaking the 4th wall, an eyebrow wax as a (racist by today's standards) disguise. It was always there.
- vb6sp6 6y ago
  > They might be the best action movies, but I don't consider them the best Bond movies yes, they seem to borrow heavily from the Bourne movies instead of from past Bond movies. Still enjoyable.
tomjen3 6y ago
The entire point of it is that James Bond is the perfect man, who always knows what to do and how to get the ladies. Graig didn't play that, so in my mind it makes it a bad Bond movie. It may still be a great movie. The Bourne triology works great as a movie but it wouldn't, and isn't a James Bond movie. I just wish the movie producers would create new franchises rather than reboot the others.
DobryMorozov 6y ago
I'm a big Pierce Bronson fan. Really liked Tomorrow Never Dies when I was a kid
snake_plissken 6y ago
I agree and really love the Daniel Craig movies but, they're from a different era. In my mind it ends up being like the Jordan-Lebron or the Ronaldo/Messi-Maradona debate. There are just too many intrinsic differences between the two eras that it makes a real comparisons basically impossible.
mhh__ 6y ago
I think everyone likes the bond they grew up with but I think it's fairly uncontroversial to say that Craig is the best actor to play the role. Skyfall is still alarmingly good, i.e. it's a bond film with explosions and car chases that also has real thematic depth and absolutely beautiful cinematography.
- WorldMaker 6y ago
  I feel Skyfall is the movie that proves Bond is a Time Lord.
- danielscrubs 6y ago
  Craig has zero charm, and charm was Bonds selling point for me at least. If it doesn’t have that you might as well watch a Vin Diesel movie. “The man from UNCLE” was more Bond than anything Craig was in.

diegoperini 6y ago

I use to marathon Bond movies thinking about the same thing. It's probably because he has the more believable body size for the stunts he makes.

beerandt 6y ago

They might be the best action movies, but I don't consider them the best Bond movies, bc they're so different than every other Bond movie. They're a different genre all together. It's not that I don't like them, or even like them any less in general; I just have a hard time considering them to be Bond movies at all. They're so serious, even when being sarcastic and dry. They're not fun, and not something I probably would have been excited to binge watch as a kid, as the other ones are/were. I try hard to convince myself this is just temporal bias, but I'm less convinced the more I think about it. And I still can't wrap my head around the fact that Goldeneye and Casino were directed by the same person. I say this as someone who has 4 different actors in my top 5 Bond movie list, and none are Craig. So probably not a popular opinion- but also as someone who's never read any of the books, but seen every movie multiple times. Then again, I also consider Brave Little Toaster to be a better version of Toy Story 3, for almost opposite reasons, while I still consider TS3 to be objectively the best Pixar-formula movie made. (Unless counting the first 10 mins of Up as it's own entity.)

jwalton 6y ago
Yeah, I 100% agree. I heard an interview with Daniel Craig once where he said that they couldn't make Casion Royale as fun and playful as the originals, because of "Austin Powers". He said they would have had to walk a delicate line between parody/campy and fun, and they felt it wouldn't have worked. But now we don't get any new "real" Bond movies. :/
- WorldMaker 6y ago
  Austin Powers borrowed a lot from the original Casino Royale (the 60s spoof version), and the classic 60s spoof duology In Like Flint/Our Man Flint (fun watches that still hold up; Austin Powers even directly name drops them). Those 60s spoofs didn't kill campy/fun James Bond, and also show us evidence of this sort of spoof/serious cycle in Bond (and elsewhere) is likely cyclical. If history is to judge, we're about to the point where Austin Powers flutters out of collective consciousness again and given the right actors/directors/producers the Bond movies can do fun stuff again.
- beerandt 6y ago
  That's more excuse than argument, to me. I think that's basically an admission to packaging and marketing a new franchise under the Bond brand. Anyway, all the Bond movies were campy or felt B-movie-ish to some extent. Each actor did it in a different way, but they all did it. And don't forget that Moonraker exists. Which I love, but come on. The self-parody wasn't always explicit or obvious, but it was always blatantly there. Running on alligators, breaking the 4th wall, an eyebrow wax as a (racist by today's standards) disguise. It was always there.
vb6sp6 6y ago
> They might be the best action movies, but I don't consider them the best Bond movies yes, they seem to borrow heavily from the Bourne movies instead of from past Bond movies. Still enjoyable.

tomjen3 6y ago

The entire point of it is that James Bond is the perfect man, who always knows what to do and how to get the ladies. Graig didn't play that, so in my mind it makes it a bad Bond movie. It may still be a great movie. The Bourne triology works great as a movie but it wouldn't, and isn't a James Bond movie. I just wish the movie producers would create new franchises rather than reboot the others.

DobryMorozov 6y ago

I'm a big Pierce Bronson fan. Really liked Tomorrow Never Dies when I was a kid

snake_plissken 6y ago

I agree and really love the Daniel Craig movies but, they're from a different era. In my mind it ends up being like the Jordan-Lebron or the Ronaldo/Messi-Maradona debate. There are just too many intrinsic differences between the two eras that it makes a real comparisons basically impossible.

mhh__ 6y ago

I think everyone likes the bond they grew up with but I think it's fairly uncontroversial to say that Craig is the best actor to play the role. Skyfall is still alarmingly good, i.e. it's a bond film with explosions and car chases that also has real thematic depth and absolutely beautiful cinematography.

WorldMaker 6y ago
I feel Skyfall is the movie that proves Bond is a Time Lord.
danielscrubs 6y ago
Craig has zero charm, and charm was Bonds selling point for me at least. If it doesn’t have that you might as well watch a Vin Diesel movie. “The man from UNCLE” was more Bond than anything Craig was in.