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>And more importantly, how do we make more Elon Musks? You take rich families from apartheid states that made their wealth of gems trade & slavery, get the kid

>And more importantly, how do we make more Elon Musks? You take rich families from apartheid states that made their wealth of gems trade & slavery, get the kids excited about space, and give them a world-class education and a huge supply of slaves mining cobalt in africa.

sabertoothed 6y ago
Is this irony? Or are you serious?
- throw1234651234 6y ago
  Not him, but I seriously want to know how rich Elon Musk's family is. He never worked a day at a conventional job in his life - this is a huge luxury.
  - _Microft 6y ago
    If Ashlee Vance's biography of Musk can be trusted, he worked different jobs as ancillary worker doing things like selling fruits, cleaning grain silos or even ovens in a factory. As student he is said to have hosted parties for students in a house he and a fellow student had rented to pay for the rent (same source).
    - throw1234651234 6y ago
      Not trolling, but the second point casts doubt on it all, given that I have a hard time imagining Musk hosting parties, let alone getting people to pay for them. This is also pre-hair, pre-money Elon Musk we are talking about.
      - _Microft 6y ago
        I won't be looking up the page in the book for you but here is a search result instead: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/09/elon-musk-ran-a-nightclub-out-of-his-college-house-to-pay-for-rent.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/09/elon-musk-ran-a-nightclub-ou...
        throw1234651234 6y ago
        No, I believe you, I am questioning the book itself. Either way, thanks for the link.
  - iso1631 6y ago
    It is, but there's way over a million families in america with a net worth over $10 million. Bezos is rich. He started a rocket company. Blue Origin has done nowhere near what spacex has done, and that difference isn't down to just throwing money at a problem. Don't get me wrong, throwing money at the problem is important, but it's just one ingredient. There are some rich people who have made a difference -- Bill Gates comes to mind as someone that put money and effort in. Chuck Feeney on the "throw money at a problem" side. But for every Bill Gates there's a Larry Elison, Mark Zuckerberg, Sergy Brin, and dozens more that don't seem to do much. When it comes to the next generation down, it's even rarer to find kids who are driven to make such a success.
- Pelic4n 6y ago
  Absolutely no irony. That's how Elon Musk happened. If you want more Elon Musk that's how you can get them I guess. Soon you'll have an army of geniuses building that cool space utopia for billionaires while the rest of us can stay in the dying world they left us. Our NeuraLink(tm) units will get us through the day, rewarding mining enough rare earth metals with dopamine hits and pain suppression! (That, that was irony. I hope it'll still be funny in 50 years).
  - DarmokJalad1701 6y ago
    Stop parroting debunked allegations. https://www.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/iivbk5/elon_musks_timeboxing_showed_me_the_key_to/g3acd6c/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/iivbk5/elon_m...
    - Pelic4n 6y ago
      We should tell the kids mining cobalt in congo that Elon Musk's family wealth is in fact, not from an emerald mine and that Elon is a good guy after all! I wonder why his family got out of South Africa as soon as the apartheid ended and hasn't got back since at least once tho.
      - DarmokJalad1701 6y ago
        > I wonder why his family got out of South Africa as soon as the apartheid ended and hasn't got back since at least once tho. Could it possibly has something to do with his father being abusive to both his mother and himself/siblings? You can allege things all day long, but the fact is that your claims don't bear out in reality. > We should tell the kids mining cobalt in congo that Elon Musk's family wealth is in fact, not from an emerald mine and that Elon is a good guy after all! https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-emotion https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-emotion Even though completely unrelated to what is being discussed, since you brought it up: Tesla has constantly re-iterated their commitment to responsible sourcing of minerals up and down their supply chain in their filings (https://www.tesla.com/ns_videos/2019-tesla-impact-report.pdf https://www.tesla.com/ns_videos/2019-tesla-impact-report.pdf). If you are making claims, back it up with some evidence. Besides, their batteries use much less Co than others today and will be phased out entirely by next year. The oil industry uses tons more cobalt in refining than Tesla ever does in production.

sabertoothed 6y ago

Is this irony? Or are you serious?

throw1234651234 6y ago
Not him, but I seriously want to know how rich Elon Musk's family is. He never worked a day at a conventional job in his life - this is a huge luxury.
- _Microft 6y ago
  If Ashlee Vance's biography of Musk can be trusted, he worked different jobs as ancillary worker doing things like selling fruits, cleaning grain silos or even ovens in a factory. As student he is said to have hosted parties for students in a house he and a fellow student had rented to pay for the rent (same source).
  - throw1234651234 6y ago
    Not trolling, but the second point casts doubt on it all, given that I have a hard time imagining Musk hosting parties, let alone getting people to pay for them. This is also pre-hair, pre-money Elon Musk we are talking about.
    - _Microft 6y ago
      I won't be looking up the page in the book for you but here is a search result instead: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/09/elon-musk-ran-a-nightclub-out-of-his-college-house-to-pay-for-rent.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/09/elon-musk-ran-a-nightclub-ou...
      - throw1234651234 6y ago
        No, I believe you, I am questioning the book itself. Either way, thanks for the link.
- iso1631 6y ago
  It is, but there's way over a million families in america with a net worth over $10 million. Bezos is rich. He started a rocket company. Blue Origin has done nowhere near what spacex has done, and that difference isn't down to just throwing money at a problem. Don't get me wrong, throwing money at the problem is important, but it's just one ingredient. There are some rich people who have made a difference -- Bill Gates comes to mind as someone that put money and effort in. Chuck Feeney on the "throw money at a problem" side. But for every Bill Gates there's a Larry Elison, Mark Zuckerberg, Sergy Brin, and dozens more that don't seem to do much. When it comes to the next generation down, it's even rarer to find kids who are driven to make such a success.
Pelic4n 6y ago
Absolutely no irony. That's how Elon Musk happened. If you want more Elon Musk that's how you can get them I guess. Soon you'll have an army of geniuses building that cool space utopia for billionaires while the rest of us can stay in the dying world they left us. Our NeuraLink(tm) units will get us through the day, rewarding mining enough rare earth metals with dopamine hits and pain suppression! (That, that was irony. I hope it'll still be funny in 50 years).
- DarmokJalad1701 6y ago
  Stop parroting debunked allegations. https://www.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/iivbk5/elon_musks_timeboxing_showed_me_the_key_to/g3acd6c/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/iivbk5/elon_m...
  - Pelic4n 6y ago
    We should tell the kids mining cobalt in congo that Elon Musk's family wealth is in fact, not from an emerald mine and that Elon is a good guy after all! I wonder why his family got out of South Africa as soon as the apartheid ended and hasn't got back since at least once tho.
    - DarmokJalad1701 6y ago
      > I wonder why his family got out of South Africa as soon as the apartheid ended and hasn't got back since at least once tho. Could it possibly has something to do with his father being abusive to both his mother and himself/siblings? You can allege things all day long, but the fact is that your claims don't bear out in reality. > We should tell the kids mining cobalt in congo that Elon Musk's family wealth is in fact, not from an emerald mine and that Elon is a good guy after all! https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-emotion https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-emotion Even though completely unrelated to what is being discussed, since you brought it up: Tesla has constantly re-iterated their commitment to responsible sourcing of minerals up and down their supply chain in their filings (https://www.tesla.com/ns_videos/2019-tesla-impact-report.pdf https://www.tesla.com/ns_videos/2019-tesla-impact-report.pdf). If you are making claims, back it up with some evidence. Besides, their batteries use much less Co than others today and will be phased out entirely by next year. The oil industry uses tons more cobalt in refining than Tesla ever does in production.