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Ethics are complicated. System has to be ethical first, then individual actors. You cannot have an unethical system then expect actors to be ethical.
by bluesign 6y ago
Ethics are complicated. System has to be ethical first, then individual actors. You cannot have an unethical system then expect actors to be ethical.
- pmiller2 6y agoYup, and capitalism isn't particularly ethical. It's amoral at best.
- Lammy 6y agoNo "system" is somehow a separate thing from its "actors". A void wouldn't exist with nothing to put in it. People like this author are the unethical individual actors making the entire system unethical.
- bluesign 6y agoWhen I said system I used as a meaning of ruleset. There are 2 set of actors in this case, one is making unethical rules, another is abusing this unethical rules basically.
- rdgthree 6y agoI think the argument here is essentially that of the prisoner's dilemma. A system or game can put two rational (or we can say ethical for the purposes of this argument) actors in a position where the most rational/ethical decision isn't the most ideal for all parties. You can argue that the individual acting in a self-interested way is the problem, or you can argue that the system itself is the problem. I'd have to agree with the parent comment - it's complicated.
- ytwySXpMbS 6y agoI think by definition acting in a self-interested way is going to benefit you the most, otherwise it wouldn't be called self-interested. The problem is that often, acting in a self-interested way harms others, either directly or indirectly, hence being unethical. That's not the fault of the system, no system can prevent dogged self-interest being the most beneficial for yourself.