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As an extreme example I'm reminded of this south korean ferry disaster where 304 passengers died: > As Sewol began sinking, the ferry's intercom system started
by tdeck 6y ago
As an extreme example I'm reminded of this south korean ferry disaster where 304 passengers died:
> As Sewol began sinking, the ferry's intercom system started ordering the passengers to stay put, alleging that moving was dangerous. The announcements were made by a communication officer, Kang Hae-seong, who had not consulted the manual before the broadcast. The announcements began broadcasting by at least 8:52 a.m. and continued even when water began flooding passenger compartments. Other crew members corroborated this order, instructing passengers to stay put. Captain Lee also instructed passengers to stay put and did not change the order even as he was leaving the ship.
> The first emergency call was made by Choi Duk-ha, a Danwon High School student aboard the ferry. At 8:52 a.m., he called the national emergency service number and reported to the Jeollanam-do fire station that Sewol was capsizing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_MV_Sewol?wprov=sfla1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_MV_Sewol?wprov=sfla...
- dmitriid 6y agoIt's a well-known issue in some countries: authorities are never questioned even if the decisions are obviously wrong. For Korea, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Cargo_Flight_8509#Investigation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Cargo_Flight_8509#I...
- camillomiller 6y agoWhich might also explain why they beat Covid faster and more effectively, on the other hand.
- Kiro 6y agoThey haven't beaten Covid. Their current curve is quickly approaching the spring numbers, expected to hit the February peak next week. https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/12/07/943812120/south-koreas-health-minister-describes-seoul-as-a-covid-19-war-zone?t=1607421588613 https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/1...
- camillomiller 6y agoYou're right, although I'm measuring by EU and US standards. I admit I had more like Vietnam, Taiwan and China in mind, than South Korea, thanks for the link.
- Taek 6y agoDeaths per million in Korea is a factor of 80 lower than in the US. Even if they return to previous highs they are way outperforming the US.
- Kiro 6y agoFor sure but there's a common misconception bundling South Korea together with countries that have actually beaten it, like New Zealand and Vietnam. South Korea is doing great by any Western standard but they haven't beaten it, yet.
- blaser-waffle 6y agoFar lower rates of obesity, better health infrastructure, and a much, much higher willingness to wear masks and defer to the elderly (who are most at risk).
- zelos 6y ago> New cases reported Monday exceeded 600 for the second day in a row, bringing the total to more than 38,000, with about 550 deaths. South Korea's population is around 50 million. Their total deaths from Covid are similar to the daily death rate during the first peak in the UK, a similarly sized Western country.
- rozab 6y ago> When the captain tried to bank the plane to turn left, his ADI showed it not banking, but the comparator alarm sounded repeatedly. The first officer did not say anything regarding the alarm and told the captain that the aircraft should turn at 1.5 miles according to the distance measuring equipment. The older and more experienced flight engineer did call out "bank" four times in 19 seconds, but the captain ignored his warnings, continued to ignore the chiming alarm, made no verbal response, and actually continued to increase the left bank angle. At 18:38, 55 seconds after take-off, Flight 8509's left wing dragged along the ground, then the aircraft plunged into the ground at a speed of between 250 and 300 knots, in a 40° pitch down and 90° left bank attitude. The aircraft exploded on impact. ouch
- ASalazarMX 6y ago> Captain Lee also instructed passengers to stay put and did not change the order even as he was leaving the ship. This reads like SpaceBalls.