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You have to clear a corner of your conscience and learn some empathy (fake it till you make it). If it ever happened to you and your family you’d be pissed and

You have to clear a corner of your conscience and learn some empathy (fake it till you make it). If it ever happened to you and your family you’d be pissed and wouldn’t waste your energy in trying to justify their violent behavior

giantg2 6y ago
Lol I have been the victim of police misconduct and filed a (successful) complaint against them. Maybe if you took some training and educated yourself on law and law enforcement, you would have some empathy for both sides instead of just one. There was no violence here.
- tartoran 6y ago
  Soft violence or symbolic violence is what I was referring to here. It’s menant to humiliate, to subjugate, to impose unearned reapect and law enforcement abuse it all the friggin time. Just once in a while is there is a honest and really respectful cop that not cooperating with doesn’t even appear like an option. But when cops bark orders and you’re supposed to say yes sir, i’ll do whatever you please because you’re authority, that’s when we’re dealing with soft violence
  - heavyset_go 6y ago
    If I pointed a gun at someone that would, at the very least, be assault with a deadly weapon. It's definitely violence.
    - tartoran 6y ago
      But not if you’re law inforcement, it is considered routine or justified as a commenter did previously: they did clear some corner or whatever. This kind of behavior has sadly been normalized and is seen as acceptable now. If we don’t do something now we’ll have striking/hitting/punching suspects as normal too
      - giantg2 6y ago
        That's not true at all and is a slippery slope argument. In fact, over the decades the courts have made numerous rulings in the opposite direction - giving suspects more rights and protections.
        tartoran 6y ago
        That is not untrue, the courts have made some terrible rulings but that’s a different story. However, the law enforcement department has become increasingly trigger happy and there’s no denying of that.
        giantg2 6y ago
        Brady v MD, Miranda, and others have strengthened people's rights. Are there still problems? Yes. But overall it is getting better. What evidence do you have that cops are more trigger happy now than before? The numbers seem pretty steady to me. https://www.statista.com/statistics/251894/number-of-justifiable-homicides-in-the-us/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/251894/number-of-justifi...
        tartoran 6y ago
        They may indeed not be more trigger happy now than before but more evidence came to light now so the perception is that they are more trigger happy when in reality they WERE ALREADY trigger happy. Im aware that there are professional law enforcement personnel but overall the institution failed to clean up its bad apples. Oh no, not only that but actively defends them.
  - giantg2 6y ago
    Well, unless you disband government all together there will always be soft violence - every government imposes its will over the people.

giantg2 6y ago

Lol I have been the victim of police misconduct and filed a (successful) complaint against them. Maybe if you took some training and educated yourself on law and law enforcement, you would have some empathy for both sides instead of just one. There was no violence here.

tartoran 6y ago
Soft violence or symbolic violence is what I was referring to here. It’s menant to humiliate, to subjugate, to impose unearned reapect and law enforcement abuse it all the friggin time. Just once in a while is there is a honest and really respectful cop that not cooperating with doesn’t even appear like an option. But when cops bark orders and you’re supposed to say yes sir, i’ll do whatever you please because you’re authority, that’s when we’re dealing with soft violence
- heavyset_go 6y ago
  If I pointed a gun at someone that would, at the very least, be assault with a deadly weapon. It's definitely violence.
  - tartoran 6y ago
    But not if you’re law inforcement, it is considered routine or justified as a commenter did previously: they did clear some corner or whatever. This kind of behavior has sadly been normalized and is seen as acceptable now. If we don’t do something now we’ll have striking/hitting/punching suspects as normal too
    - giantg2 6y ago
      That's not true at all and is a slippery slope argument. In fact, over the decades the courts have made numerous rulings in the opposite direction - giving suspects more rights and protections.
      - tartoran 6y ago
        That is not untrue, the courts have made some terrible rulings but that’s a different story. However, the law enforcement department has become increasingly trigger happy and there’s no denying of that.
        giantg2 6y ago
        Brady v MD, Miranda, and others have strengthened people's rights. Are there still problems? Yes. But overall it is getting better. What evidence do you have that cops are more trigger happy now than before? The numbers seem pretty steady to me. https://www.statista.com/statistics/251894/number-of-justifiable-homicides-in-the-us/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/251894/number-of-justifi...
        tartoran 6y ago
        They may indeed not be more trigger happy now than before but more evidence came to light now so the perception is that they are more trigger happy when in reality they WERE ALREADY trigger happy. Im aware that there are professional law enforcement personnel but overall the institution failed to clean up its bad apples. Oh no, not only that but actively defends them.
- giantg2 6y ago
  Well, unless you disband government all together there will always be soft violence - every government imposes its will over the people.