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This is a very naive understanding of police work. Pulling over does not mean a thing. If a small number of cases go violent, and you don’t know which ones, you

This is a very naive understanding of police work. Pulling over does not mean a thing. If a small number of cases go violent, and you don’t know which ones, you cannot just ignore them. If 99.9% of contacts are non-violent, a cop who makes 1000 contacts is dead. Violence has never gone down from defunding. Although this should be obvious, an alarming number of people don’t seem to be thinking rationally on that topic. It has certainly gone up after defunding, however.

StillBored 6y ago
You shouldn't make up numbers about the ratio of violent vs non-violent stops. The vast majority of police go for their entire careers without having to ever discharge their weapon. Police work is actually quite safe, they never appear in any of the top most dangerous professions lists. And compared with some of those lists https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/27/the-10-most-dangerous-jobs-in-america-according-to-bls-data.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/27/the-10-most-dangerous-jobs-i... they are paid much better due to being about the only job that is still unionized throughout the entire country. I've been pulled over by cops making $100+k a year, and its not all all uncommon for them to break $200k with overtime. (and this is in TX, not exactly known for CA salary levels).
- lawnchair_larry 6y ago
  That’s not how data works unfortunately. You can’t average the experience of a Chicago beat cop with a desk duty cop from Nome Alaska. Besides that, number of discharges doesn’t tell much of the story. They’re not paid better due to the fact that they are in unions at all. Otherwise teachers would be rich, and police departments in major cities wouldn’t be struggling to hire even with relatively high wages. They pay that because nobody wants the job and the public is inexplicably antagonistic towards cops who join out of a desire to help people. Saying that it’s quite safe is absurd and obviously untrue. It didn’t make your top 10 list of professions with the most deaths, but it’s barely below the cut, so still in the top 20 easily. And again, that data doesn’t tell the whole story.

StillBored 6y ago

You shouldn't make up numbers about the ratio of violent vs non-violent stops. The vast majority of police go for their entire careers without having to ever discharge their weapon. Police work is actually quite safe, they never appear in any of the top most dangerous professions lists. And compared with some of those lists https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/27/the-10-most-dangerous-jobs-in-america-according-to-bls-data.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/27/the-10-most-dangerous-jobs-i... they are paid much better due to being about the only job that is still unionized throughout the entire country. I've been pulled over by cops making $100+k a year, and its not all all uncommon for them to break $200k with overtime. (and this is in TX, not exactly known for CA salary levels).

lawnchair_larry 6y ago
That’s not how data works unfortunately. You can’t average the experience of a Chicago beat cop with a desk duty cop from Nome Alaska. Besides that, number of discharges doesn’t tell much of the story. They’re not paid better due to the fact that they are in unions at all. Otherwise teachers would be rich, and police departments in major cities wouldn’t be struggling to hire even with relatively high wages. They pay that because nobody wants the job and the public is inexplicably antagonistic towards cops who join out of a desire to help people. Saying that it’s quite safe is absurd and obviously untrue. It didn’t make your top 10 list of professions with the most deaths, but it’s barely below the cut, so still in the top 20 easily. And again, that data doesn’t tell the whole story.