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I saw an inertia-less, extremely fast aircraft playing around above the Sierra Nevadas one night about 22 years ago. Obviously you all don't know me from Adam,

I saw an inertia-less, extremely fast aircraft playing around above the Sierra Nevadas one night about 22 years ago. Obviously you all don't know me from Adam, so I don't expect this to update your priors much, but my personal evidence threshold is pretty low now.

meowster 6y ago
That would just show that there's more advanced technology out there than the general public is aware of. That wouldn't provide evidence of whether it was humans or other intelligent life that created that technology.
jobigoud 6y ago
Ground based lights can bounce on atmospheric inversion interface and if the conditions are just right and you are at the right place you would see lights seemingly playing in the sky.
dTal 6y ago
I think your priors on "optical illusions" are unreasonably low. I too once saw a seemingly inertia-less gleaming silvery orb streaking across the clear blue sky. If it had flown away just a moment sooner, I might never have realized that it was in fact a fluffy seed pod, some 15 yards away.
PhaedrusV 6y ago
Conditions were perfectly clear, late at night, at several thousand feet, and the light persisted for about 10 minutes without any flickering or distortion. There aren't any natural phenomena I know of that could have caused that. Obviously this doesn't immediately require extraterrestrials, but, given the lack of evidence or workable theory that life is original to earth, I'd say Occam's Razor leads that way. It is interesting how this viewpoint I hold changes how I consume UFO news. There's a whole lot of BS and misinformation in the area, and a lot of crazy people, and a few apparently credible people (like Tom Delong and his To The Stars Academy board) who occasionally still mange to lapse into bizarreness despite otherwise sounding pretty reasonable if you fail to reject the basic premise.

meowster 6y ago

That would just show that there's more advanced technology out there than the general public is aware of. That wouldn't provide evidence of whether it was humans or other intelligent life that created that technology.

jobigoud 6y ago

Ground based lights can bounce on atmospheric inversion interface and if the conditions are just right and you are at the right place you would see lights seemingly playing in the sky.

dTal 6y ago

I think your priors on "optical illusions" are unreasonably low. I too once saw a seemingly inertia-less gleaming silvery orb streaking across the clear blue sky. If it had flown away just a moment sooner, I might never have realized that it was in fact a fluffy seed pod, some 15 yards away.

PhaedrusV 6y ago

Conditions were perfectly clear, late at night, at several thousand feet, and the light persisted for about 10 minutes without any flickering or distortion. There aren't any natural phenomena I know of that could have caused that. Obviously this doesn't immediately require extraterrestrials, but, given the lack of evidence or workable theory that life is original to earth, I'd say Occam's Razor leads that way. It is interesting how this viewpoint I hold changes how I consume UFO news. There's a whole lot of BS and misinformation in the area, and a lot of crazy people, and a few apparently credible people (like Tom Delong and his To The Stars Academy board) who occasionally still mange to lapse into bizarreness despite otherwise sounding pretty reasonable if you fail to reject the basic premise.