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>The owners and operators of more than half a million diesel pickup trucks have been illegally disabling their vehicles’ emissions control technology over the p

>The owners and operators of more than half a million diesel pickup trucks have been illegally disabling their vehicles’ emissions control technology over the past decade, allowing excess emissions equivalent to 9 million extra trucks on the road, a new federal report has concluded. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/25/climate/diesel-trucks-air-pollution.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/25/climate/diesel-trucks-air...

throwaway0a5e 6y ago
The emissions technology significantly increases the TCO of the vehicle so it's not exactly surprising that people disable it.
- nitrogen 6y ago
  It just moves the TCO to the lungs of everyone else.
- sagarm 6y ago
  Looks like this is a problem to be solved with the application of law and order. If a few extrajudicial executions happen along the way, it's just the price we pay for an orderly society. After all, all lives matter.
  - throwaway0a5e 6y ago
    Isn't it a little hypocritical to call for law and order and condone vigilantism in the same sentence?
    - sagarm 6y ago
      Obviously I'm being sarcastic. The extrajudicial executions are administered by the police, in case that wasn't clear.
- omgwtfbyobbq 6y ago
  How much does it increase the TCO?
  - fy20 6y ago
    From a European perspective pretty much any diesel car here that has done over 200,000km will have had the DPF removed. In most countries it's illegal, but it's also not tested as part of the emissions tests (particulate matter in general is not tested, other than 'is there black or white smoke? nope, you pass'). Above this mileage it will become clogged and need to be replaced. If it isn't it will increase fuel consumption, reduce power, and damage the engine if left long enough. They are not off-the-shelf parts you can buy (not that they couldn't be, but nobody buys them), so you need to get a 'reconditioned' one which isn't going to last anywhere near as long. For €2500 or more for parts and labour it doesn't make financial sense, especially when your car is probably valued at a similar amount. I live in a city center next to a relatively busy road and whenever I replace the filters in my apartment ventilation system every 3-6 months they are always thick black. We don't really have any heavy industry in this city, so I assume most of that is from vehicles.
- throwaway0a5e 6y ago
  Why is it impossible to say <thing happens> without everyone around here reading it as <thing happens and I approve>? My comment intentionally no value judgement yet everyone assumed one.

throwaway0a5e 6y ago

The emissions technology significantly increases the TCO of the vehicle so it's not exactly surprising that people disable it.

nitrogen 6y ago
It just moves the TCO to the lungs of everyone else.
sagarm 6y ago
Looks like this is a problem to be solved with the application of law and order. If a few extrajudicial executions happen along the way, it's just the price we pay for an orderly society. After all, all lives matter.
- throwaway0a5e 6y ago
  Isn't it a little hypocritical to call for law and order and condone vigilantism in the same sentence?
  - sagarm 6y ago
    Obviously I'm being sarcastic. The extrajudicial executions are administered by the police, in case that wasn't clear.
omgwtfbyobbq 6y ago
How much does it increase the TCO?
- fy20 6y ago
  From a European perspective pretty much any diesel car here that has done over 200,000km will have had the DPF removed. In most countries it's illegal, but it's also not tested as part of the emissions tests (particulate matter in general is not tested, other than 'is there black or white smoke? nope, you pass'). Above this mileage it will become clogged and need to be replaced. If it isn't it will increase fuel consumption, reduce power, and damage the engine if left long enough. They are not off-the-shelf parts you can buy (not that they couldn't be, but nobody buys them), so you need to get a 'reconditioned' one which isn't going to last anywhere near as long. For €2500 or more for parts and labour it doesn't make financial sense, especially when your car is probably valued at a similar amount. I live in a city center next to a relatively busy road and whenever I replace the filters in my apartment ventilation system every 3-6 months they are always thick black. We don't really have any heavy industry in this city, so I assume most of that is from vehicles.
throwaway0a5e 6y ago
Why is it impossible to say <thing happens> without everyone around here reading it as <thing happens and I approve>? My comment intentionally no value judgement yet everyone assumed one.