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It's possible they wouldn't have been so hesitant to open the door if cops didn't have a reputation for shooting people with no consequence. The people with ac

by Kye 6y ago

It's possible they wouldn't have been so hesitant to open the door if cops didn't have a reputation for shooting people with no consequence. The people with actual power in this situation have the greater responsibility.

godelski 6y ago
> The people with actual power in this situation have the greater responsibility. This cannot be stated enough. It seems in our general conversations that whenever there is a tribal component to the discussion that this responsibility shifts when it aligns or disaligns with your tribe. I've always been a firm believer that you can complain about those in other tribes, but it is your responsibility to hold those in your tribe to a higher bar. After all, you don't have a voice in the tribe you don't belong to and your tribe isn't perfect and can always seek to improve. And there should never be a question about a person in a position of power being held to a higher responsibility than an average person. No one should be getting a pass on this, inside or outside of your tribe.
giantg2 6y ago
That's not really logical. If you think you'll get shot for no reason, then surely you would think that your chances of getting shot will go up with non-compliance.
- Kye 6y ago
  If I think I'll get shot for no reason, then there's no point where I think I can do anything about my chances. There's just nothing you can do when your home is surrounded by people who likely have at least one person who's gone through "warrior training." Your options are pretty much comply and hope you don't get shot, fight, hide somewhere and hope you don't get shot when they storm in, or set up a camera streaming to someone you trust just in case you don't survive. It looks like she used those 20 minutes to go with the latter option.
  - chordalkeyboard 6y ago
    > If I think I'll get shot for no reason, then there's no point where I think I can do anything about my chances. Thats terrible judgment. If you think you might be shot for no reason at all, then it certainly doesn't improve your chances to start giving people reasons to shoot you.
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by Kye 6y ago

godelski 6y ago

> The people with actual power in this situation have the greater responsibility. This cannot be stated enough. It seems in our general conversations that whenever there is a tribal component to the discussion that this responsibility shifts when it aligns or disaligns with your tribe. I've always been a firm believer that you can complain about those in other tribes, but it is your responsibility to hold those in your tribe to a higher bar. After all, you don't have a voice in the tribe you don't belong to and your tribe isn't perfect and can always seek to improve. And there should never be a question about a person in a position of power being held to a higher responsibility than an average person. No one should be getting a pass on this, inside or outside of your tribe.

giantg2 6y ago

That's not really logical. If you think you'll get shot for no reason, then surely you would think that your chances of getting shot will go up with non-compliance.

Kye 6y ago
If I think I'll get shot for no reason, then there's no point where I think I can do anything about my chances. There's just nothing you can do when your home is surrounded by people who likely have at least one person who's gone through "warrior training." Your options are pretty much comply and hope you don't get shot, fight, hide somewhere and hope you don't get shot when they storm in, or set up a camera streaming to someone you trust just in case you don't survive. It looks like she used those 20 minutes to go with the latter option.
- chordalkeyboard 6y ago
  > If I think I'll get shot for no reason, then there's no point where I think I can do anything about my chances. Thats terrible judgment. If you think you might be shot for no reason at all, then it certainly doesn't improve your chances to start giving people reasons to shoot you.
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