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I had AT&T via Sonic's FTTN in an effort to avoid Comcast/AT&T directly, especially since Sonic does not have data caps despite running on AT&T's network and ac

I had AT&T via Sonic's FTTN in an effort to avoid Comcast/AT&T directly, especially since Sonic does not have data caps despite running on AT&T's network and actually respects their customer's privacy. Unfortunately my experience was so terrible and unreliable that I decided to give up and finally sign up with Comcast, and just have to mind that 1.2TB data cap. The Bay Area of all places should not have such terrible ISP infrastructure, but here we are.

proverbialbunny 6y ago
It's because AT&T does not follow net neutrality. It has fast lanes and slow lanes, which cause a lot of problems for work VPNs even when down the street. This TLS handshake bit flip is just yet another issue AT&T has, including the 1.1.1.1 DNS issues, and everything else. I'm on Sonic.net fiber over AT&T too. To get the equivalent fiber from Comcast out here it's $270 a month. However, if you're lucky enough Sonic.net fiber that doesn't run over AT&T is amazing.
- city41 6y ago
  Huh, I had Sonic fiber over AT&T and loved it. In May I moved out of the bay area and now have Comcast cable. I'd do pretty much anything to get Sonic's level of quality out here.
  - proverbialbunny 6y ago
    That's because you're comparing fiber to cable. Get Comcast fiber if you want it again. I don't know if $270 a month is a statewide rate or not.
e40 6y ago
I was seriously considering signing up for Sonic service, and I have Comcast now. Guess I won't do that. I hesitated because I really really hate AT&T. Guess I should have trusted that feeling.
- setpatchaddress 6y ago
  Sonic's support is much, much better than AT&T's, FWIW. If you must Comcast, at least make sure you Comcast Business so that you get connected to non-idiot support people.
- ummonk 6y ago
  Fwiw, I have Sonic's FTTN and it has been a great experience up till this issue started last month.
brigade 6y ago
It's shitty, but just FYI: you can pay Comcast an additional $30/mo for unlimited data. They hide the option, but it was ultimately the least bad option to handle my WFH traffic after Comcast re-instated the caps.
- akira2501 6y ago
  You can get Comcast Business at your residence. The overall bandwidth is lower, but you're priority traffic, and there are no caps. Plus, static IPv4 and IPv6 are available.
cl0ne 6y ago
I had to switch also after missing days of work due to not being able to use the internet with AT&T. They just kept trying to send new routers, which was not the problem. And I thought ISPs in Alaska were bad, I never thought I'd have worse service in the Bay Area.

proverbialbunny 6y ago

It's because AT&T does not follow net neutrality. It has fast lanes and slow lanes, which cause a lot of problems for work VPNs even when down the street. This TLS handshake bit flip is just yet another issue AT&T has, including the 1.1.1.1 DNS issues, and everything else. I'm on Sonic.net fiber over AT&T too. To get the equivalent fiber from Comcast out here it's $270 a month. However, if you're lucky enough Sonic.net fiber that doesn't run over AT&T is amazing.

city41 6y ago
Huh, I had Sonic fiber over AT&T and loved it. In May I moved out of the bay area and now have Comcast cable. I'd do pretty much anything to get Sonic's level of quality out here.
- proverbialbunny 6y ago
  That's because you're comparing fiber to cable. Get Comcast fiber if you want it again. I don't know if $270 a month is a statewide rate or not.

e40 6y ago

I was seriously considering signing up for Sonic service, and I have Comcast now. Guess I won't do that. I hesitated because I really really hate AT&T. Guess I should have trusted that feeling.

setpatchaddress 6y ago
Sonic's support is much, much better than AT&T's, FWIW. If you must Comcast, at least make sure you Comcast Business so that you get connected to non-idiot support people.
ummonk 6y ago
Fwiw, I have Sonic's FTTN and it has been a great experience up till this issue started last month.

brigade 6y ago

It's shitty, but just FYI: you can pay Comcast an additional $30/mo for unlimited data. They hide the option, but it was ultimately the least bad option to handle my WFH traffic after Comcast re-instated the caps.

akira2501 6y ago
You can get Comcast Business at your residence. The overall bandwidth is lower, but you're priority traffic, and there are no caps. Plus, static IPv4 and IPv6 are available.

cl0ne 6y ago

I had to switch also after missing days of work due to not being able to use the internet with AT&T. They just kept trying to send new routers, which was not the problem. And I thought ISPs in Alaska were bad, I never thought I'd have worse service in the Bay Area.