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This is absolutely wild. I've never entertained conspiracy theories about aliens for a minute. But this guy's credentials are as legit as they come. I don't und

by whack 6y ago

This is absolutely wild. I've never entertained conspiracy theories about aliens for a minute. But this guy's credentials are as legit as they come. I don't understand why this isn't bigger news than it currently is. > retired Israeli general and current professor > served as the head of Israel's space security program for nearly 30 years and is a three-time recipient of the Israel Security Award Assuming the article isn't misrepresenting his comments, my belief in alien conspiracies has just shot up from 1E-6 to something like ~1%. Ie, I still don't believe in them, but given what's at stake, this is mind blowing.

breck 6y ago
Credentials: https://airandspace.si.edu/support/wall-of-honor/dr-chaim-eshed https://airandspace.si.edu/support/wall-of-honor/dr-chaim-es... Reuters 2007: https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL11678080 https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL11678080 He was literally in charge of Israel's space and satellite operations.
mrfusion 6y ago
Even 1% is huge.
gabrielblack 6y ago
No photos, no references: could be a man with the same name. And he's 87 years old, I'm sorry but he can be senile, without evidences, this article IMHO is only a clickbait example.
- breck 6y ago
  > could be a man with the same name I think this is the most likely explanation, and where I'd put my money. I'll admit if he pranked me (as a fellow prankster, that would be a good one). But still, the slim odds times infinity makes this a story worth spreading so we can get eyes on it and put it to bed fast.
istorical 6y ago
I mean, if you just want highly credentialed people saying they believe they've seen evidence of extraterrestrial spacecraft or life, you can look at Senate Majority leader Harry Reid, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Christopher Mellon, a ton of former astronauts, Arizona Gov. Fife Symington, Sen. Mike Gravel, Representative Roscoe Bartlett, former Canadian Defense Minister Paul Hellyer. Really it's pretty shocking people dont't care. That's just a short list I was able to remember / google my way to.
- whack 6y ago
  I looked up the first example you gave, and it doesn't seem even remotely close. Harry Reid is saying that the US government is covering up evidence of "possible close encounters with UFOs". And that we should "at least be spending some money to study all these phenomena? Shouldn’t we study this stuff? The answer is yes. That’s all this was about". He also does not claim to have any definitive answers himself, about whether aliens exist and if aliens are in regular communication with humanity. Haim Eshed, on the other hand, is claiming definitively "exactly what sort of agreements have been made between the aliens and the US" and that "Trump is aware of them, and that he was on the verge of disclosing their existence. However, the Galactic Federation reportedly stopped him from doing so, saying they wished to prevent mass hysteria". These claims are not even in the same ballpark. https://nypost.com/2020/10/13/harry-reid-claims-us-has-been-covering-up-ufo-evidence-for-years/ https://nypost.com/2020/10/13/harry-reid-claims-us-has-been-... > The US government has key evidence of possible close encounters with UFOs but has been hiding it for years, according to former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. The 80-year-old politician claimed in a new documentary, “The Phenomenon,” that “there’s more than one up there” and even believes they may have interfered with American weapons. > Asked if he was saying that “there’s some evidence that still hasn’t seen the light of day,” Reid insisted, “I’m saying most of it hasn’t seen the light of day.” “We have it — it’s there,” continued the former Nevada senator, who instigated secret UFO programs in the Pentagon. “They did everything they could to stop the program from going forward … they wanted nothing to do with this,” Reid said of the government’s resistance to his program trying to expose the truth. “Nobody has to agree why it’s there. But shouldn’t we at least be spending some money to study all these phenomena? Shouldn’t we study this stuff? The answer is yes. That’s all this was about.

by whack 6y ago

breck 6y ago

Credentials: https://airandspace.si.edu/support/wall-of-honor/dr-chaim-eshed https://airandspace.si.edu/support/wall-of-honor/dr-chaim-es... Reuters 2007: https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL11678080 https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL11678080 He was literally in charge of Israel's space and satellite operations.

mrfusion 6y ago

Even 1% is huge.

gabrielblack 6y ago

No photos, no references: could be a man with the same name. And he's 87 years old, I'm sorry but he can be senile, without evidences, this article IMHO is only a clickbait example.

breck 6y ago
> could be a man with the same name I think this is the most likely explanation, and where I'd put my money. I'll admit if he pranked me (as a fellow prankster, that would be a good one). But still, the slim odds times infinity makes this a story worth spreading so we can get eyes on it and put it to bed fast.

istorical 6y ago

I mean, if you just want highly credentialed people saying they believe they've seen evidence of extraterrestrial spacecraft or life, you can look at Senate Majority leader Harry Reid, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Christopher Mellon, a ton of former astronauts, Arizona Gov. Fife Symington, Sen. Mike Gravel, Representative Roscoe Bartlett, former Canadian Defense Minister Paul Hellyer. Really it's pretty shocking people dont't care. That's just a short list I was able to remember / google my way to.

whack 6y ago
I looked up the first example you gave, and it doesn't seem even remotely close. Harry Reid is saying that the US government is covering up evidence of "possible close encounters with UFOs". And that we should "at least be spending some money to study all these phenomena? Shouldn’t we study this stuff? The answer is yes. That’s all this was about". He also does not claim to have any definitive answers himself, about whether aliens exist and if aliens are in regular communication with humanity. Haim Eshed, on the other hand, is claiming definitively "exactly what sort of agreements have been made between the aliens and the US" and that "Trump is aware of them, and that he was on the verge of disclosing their existence. However, the Galactic Federation reportedly stopped him from doing so, saying they wished to prevent mass hysteria". These claims are not even in the same ballpark. https://nypost.com/2020/10/13/harry-reid-claims-us-has-been-covering-up-ufo-evidence-for-years/ https://nypost.com/2020/10/13/harry-reid-claims-us-has-been-... > The US government has key evidence of possible close encounters with UFOs but has been hiding it for years, according to former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. The 80-year-old politician claimed in a new documentary, “The Phenomenon,” that “there’s more than one up there” and even believes they may have interfered with American weapons. > Asked if he was saying that “there’s some evidence that still hasn’t seen the light of day,” Reid insisted, “I’m saying most of it hasn’t seen the light of day.” “We have it — it’s there,” continued the former Nevada senator, who instigated secret UFO programs in the Pentagon. “They did everything they could to stop the program from going forward … they wanted nothing to do with this,” Reid said of the government’s resistance to his program trying to expose the truth. “Nobody has to agree why it’s there. But shouldn’t we at least be spending some money to study all these phenomena? Shouldn’t we study this stuff? The answer is yes. That’s all this was about.