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SF has a phenomenal climate though in comparison. The public transportation is lacking but I mind walking or bike a lot less in SF winters as opposed to NYC win

SF has a phenomenal climate though in comparison. The public transportation is lacking but I mind walking or bike a lot less in SF winters as opposed to NYC winters.

rcpt 6y ago
I biked to work nearly every day in NYC. The weather really isn't that bad. And in NYC if ever I had some other obligation after work instead of my usual commute that was bikeable to. In California nearly every time an errand popped up I couldn't bike that day.
- legerdemain 6y ago
  "Really isn't that bad" is your experience. The physical reality is that average January lows in NYC are 20 degrees lower than in SF.
  - hn_user82179 6y ago
    Agreed. It's definitely doable in the winter but is objectively less "easy" (have to pull out/put on weather gear) and more dangerous (lower visibility when it's snowing or raining, and fewer cyclists are out in general so cars don't expect you as much).
    - rcpt 6y ago
      I didn't bike when it was raining or snowing but was still able to bike many more days than in California because after work errands didn't wreck my whole plan.
  - bart_spoon 6y ago
    > The physical reality is that average January lows in NYC are 20 degrees lower than in SF. The physical reality is that 20 degrees lower isn't that bad. Humans have thrived in colder climates for thousands of years. Being a human being in a modern day NYC/Chicago winter is a cakewalk, unless you are among the small subset of people who treat anything below 60F like its a death sentence.
    - legerdemain 6y ago
      Are you arguing that a majority of people prefer winter weather in NYC to winter weather in SF? The initial claim up-thread was "SF has a phenomenal climate though in comparison."
- hn_user82179 6y ago
  Sure, but SF is temperate year-round. Winter weather cycling's definitely doable but I immensely prefer cycling in SF year round, where I don't have to plan ahead or remember any warm gear. And I find not being able to bike for errands surprising, unless you lived outside of SF proper? I exclusively ran errands walking/biking/by bus for several years.

SF has a phenomenal climate though in comparison. The public transportation is lacking but I mind walking or bike a lot less in SF winters as opposed to NYC winters.

rcpt 6y ago

I biked to work nearly every day in NYC. The weather really isn't that bad. And in NYC if ever I had some other obligation after work instead of my usual commute that was bikeable to. In California nearly every time an errand popped up I couldn't bike that day.

legerdemain 6y ago
"Really isn't that bad" is your experience. The physical reality is that average January lows in NYC are 20 degrees lower than in SF.
- hn_user82179 6y ago
  Agreed. It's definitely doable in the winter but is objectively less "easy" (have to pull out/put on weather gear) and more dangerous (lower visibility when it's snowing or raining, and fewer cyclists are out in general so cars don't expect you as much).
  - rcpt 6y ago
    I didn't bike when it was raining or snowing but was still able to bike many more days than in California because after work errands didn't wreck my whole plan.
- bart_spoon 6y ago
  > The physical reality is that average January lows in NYC are 20 degrees lower than in SF. The physical reality is that 20 degrees lower isn't that bad. Humans have thrived in colder climates for thousands of years. Being a human being in a modern day NYC/Chicago winter is a cakewalk, unless you are among the small subset of people who treat anything below 60F like its a death sentence.
  - legerdemain 6y ago
    Are you arguing that a majority of people prefer winter weather in NYC to winter weather in SF? The initial claim up-thread was "SF has a phenomenal climate though in comparison."
hn_user82179 6y ago
Sure, but SF is temperate year-round. Winter weather cycling's definitely doable but I immensely prefer cycling in SF year round, where I don't have to plan ahead or remember any warm gear. And I find not being able to bike for errands surprising, unless you lived outside of SF proper? I exclusively ran errands walking/biking/by bus for several years.