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I would think that Cyberpunk 2077 would have good Proton compatibility on day one. It runs on Stadia, which uses Vulkan.

jsheard 6y ago
There's been no word of Vulkan support in the public Windows build though, as far as we know it only uses DirectX 12
- robotnikman 6y ago
  So they have Vulkan support because of stadia but won't release it publicly? That's kinda stupid
  - jsheard 6y ago
    It wouldn't be the first time, there's a bunch of games on Stadia that have no public Linux build or Vulkan support in their Windows build Maybe Google are licensing a proprietary DX->VK wrapper for Stadia developers to use, so they can't release it elsewhere?
    - Arelius 6y ago
      Sometimes your Stadia build is done by another company, or is using some obscure Stadia_VK extension, or your renderer is statically linked, so you'd have to do another build to switch to VK. Whatever it is, it's probably just enough work, and DX11/DX12 works better enough anyways that there just isn't enough incentive to spend the effort to get your VK backend running on Windows.
      - skohan 6y ago
        > DX11/DX12 works better enough anyways DX isn't performing better than Vulkan, is it? The performance of Vulkan titles has been almost absurdly good.
    - fabianhjr 6y ago
      > Maybe Google are licensing a proprietary DX->VK wrapper for Stadia developers to use, so they can't release it elsewhere? If they are using a wrapper it is probably just dxvk with extra stadia specific patches. ( https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk )
      - account42 6y ago
        DXVK is for DirectX 11 and earlier, not for DirectX 12
  - kmeisthax 6y ago
    It's entirely possible that the Stadia version is a separate version of the game contracted out to some other studio, with heavily invasive changes that would break if blindly rebased on top of the Win32 version.
  - cwyers 6y ago
    I think people should start thinking of Stadia as "a console that happens to use the Linux kernel," not as a server running a Linux distro. It's getting the equivalent of a console port.
ekianjo 6y ago
Cyberpunk only uses DirectX12 on Windows.

jsheard 6y ago

There's been no word of Vulkan support in the public Windows build though, as far as we know it only uses DirectX 12

robotnikman 6y ago
So they have Vulkan support because of stadia but won't release it publicly? That's kinda stupid
- jsheard 6y ago
  It wouldn't be the first time, there's a bunch of games on Stadia that have no public Linux build or Vulkan support in their Windows build Maybe Google are licensing a proprietary DX->VK wrapper for Stadia developers to use, so they can't release it elsewhere?
  - Arelius 6y ago
    Sometimes your Stadia build is done by another company, or is using some obscure Stadia_VK extension, or your renderer is statically linked, so you'd have to do another build to switch to VK. Whatever it is, it's probably just enough work, and DX11/DX12 works better enough anyways that there just isn't enough incentive to spend the effort to get your VK backend running on Windows.
    - skohan 6y ago
      > DX11/DX12 works better enough anyways DX isn't performing better than Vulkan, is it? The performance of Vulkan titles has been almost absurdly good.
  - fabianhjr 6y ago
    > Maybe Google are licensing a proprietary DX->VK wrapper for Stadia developers to use, so they can't release it elsewhere? If they are using a wrapper it is probably just dxvk with extra stadia specific patches. ( https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk )
    - account42 6y ago
      DXVK is for DirectX 11 and earlier, not for DirectX 12
- kmeisthax 6y ago
  It's entirely possible that the Stadia version is a separate version of the game contracted out to some other studio, with heavily invasive changes that would break if blindly rebased on top of the Win32 version.
- cwyers 6y ago
  I think people should start thinking of Stadia as "a console that happens to use the Linux kernel," not as a server running a Linux distro. It's getting the equivalent of a console port.

ekianjo 6y ago

Cyberpunk only uses DirectX12 on Windows.