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> I think you'll find from a legal standpoint, it does. In fact, it specifically does not: https://cuiab.ca.gov/board/precedentdecisions/docs/pb39.pdf https://

> I think you'll find from a legal standpoint, it does. In fact, it specifically does not: https://cuiab.ca.gov/board/precedentdecisions/docs/pb39.pdf https://cuiab.ca.gov/board/precedentdecisions/docs/pb39.pdf

GauntletWizard 6y ago
That’s about whether pay is owed. I’m certain that Google did not simply stop paying her checks, but told her to go home and that the remainder of her employment would be paid out. I suspect that’s enough for the law to agree that she was terminated voluntarily.
- sjg007 6y ago
  It's pay and also unemployment benefits if necessary.
- pseudalopex 6y ago
  You can't be certain unless you handle payroll for Google. A manager told it was effective immediately and mentioned her final paycheck.
ballenf 6y ago
In that case an employee gave a resignation date of 11/15. Employer cut off the employment two weeks early and court ruled that it shouldn't be considered a resignation, but instead a termination by employer. What's the parallel between those facts and the dispute here? Just not seeing any applicable precedent.
- sjg007 6y ago
  Yeah accepting a resignation effective immediately is a firing, especially when companies ask for 2 weeks notice.
- pseudalopex 6y ago
  She gave a date or implied she intended to. Google cut off her employment immediately.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > In that case an employee gave a resignation date of 11/15. Employer cut off the employment two weeks early and court ruled that it shouldn't be considered a resignation, but instead a termination by employer. > What's the parallel between those facts and the dispute here? That it's, at best for Google, the exact same thing, except that Google gave Gebru, in writing, an explicit, non-resignation reason for the early separation, making it even less disputable that it was a firing and not merely accepting the (disputed) resignation? Paraphrased most favorably to the Google management narrative, Gebru said “do X or I will conduct discussions around setting a date on which I will resign” and Google management said “we accept your resignation and, further, based on an internal group e-mail you sent after this dispute started which we find unacceptable, we are ending your employment immediately.”

GauntletWizard 6y ago

That’s about whether pay is owed. I’m certain that Google did not simply stop paying her checks, but told her to go home and that the remainder of her employment would be paid out. I suspect that’s enough for the law to agree that she was terminated voluntarily.

sjg007 6y ago
It's pay and also unemployment benefits if necessary.
pseudalopex 6y ago
You can't be certain unless you handle payroll for Google. A manager told it was effective immediately and mentioned her final paycheck.

ballenf 6y ago

In that case an employee gave a resignation date of 11/15. Employer cut off the employment two weeks early and court ruled that it shouldn't be considered a resignation, but instead a termination by employer. What's the parallel between those facts and the dispute here? Just not seeing any applicable precedent.

sjg007 6y ago
Yeah accepting a resignation effective immediately is a firing, especially when companies ask for 2 weeks notice.
pseudalopex 6y ago
She gave a date or implied she intended to. Google cut off her employment immediately.
dragonwriter 6y ago
> In that case an employee gave a resignation date of 11/15. Employer cut off the employment two weeks early and court ruled that it shouldn't be considered a resignation, but instead a termination by employer. > What's the parallel between those facts and the dispute here? That it's, at best for Google, the exact same thing, except that Google gave Gebru, in writing, an explicit, non-resignation reason for the early separation, making it even less disputable that it was a firing and not merely accepting the (disputed) resignation? Paraphrased most favorably to the Google management narrative, Gebru said “do X or I will conduct discussions around setting a date on which I will resign” and Google management said “we accept your resignation and, further, based on an internal group e-mail you sent after this dispute started which we find unacceptable, we are ending your employment immediately.”