And yet, The System seems to reliably produce this outcome in the USA to a much larger degree than elsewhere. The full spectrum of causation is often (strongly

And yet, The System seems to reliably produce this outcome in the USA to a much larger degree than elsewhere. The full spectrum of causation is often (strongly) asserted to be very specific things, but rarely does one encounter any person or organization asserting that the problem is complex and not fully understood. It does not seem unreasonable at all to me that some wrongdoing may indeed be happening here and there. That said, the highly inconsistent (other than confidence levels of assertions) approach to conspiracy theories is indeed wonderfully ironic. Today is a good example of this...one one hand we have a thread about the abstract notion of CIA deception: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25329913 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25329913 When discussing this sort of topic abstractly, it seems the HN hivememind has no problem whatsoever conceptualizing it. However, if one changes the topic to a specific, object level news event (Jimmy Wales & Wikipedia), the ability (to conceptualize deceit) seems to vanish, as ~always: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25333197 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25333197