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There are great universities outside of sf and even the us. ETH zurich for example. In zurich you also have google, oracle and co. We also have high speed inter

by herbst 6y ago

There are great universities outside of sf and even the us. ETH zurich for example. In zurich you also have google, oracle and co. We also have high speed internet for cheap. And are able to fo worldwide business, even in a pandemic. And thats just switzerland. Not sure if there is any reason for sf once most startups moved sonewhere else.

xiphias2 6y ago
One of the things that would maybe help Switzerland is to make English an official language (there are already 4 langauges, supporting English wouldn't be that hard). For me dealing with Swiss laws to make a company would make things much harder than for people who speak German well.
- medium_burrito 6y ago
  You have 4 different official languages to choose from; surely it cannot be that hard to learn one of them for even the most meanly educated tech worker?
  - xiphias2 6y ago
    I tried to learn Swiss German, but gave up quite fast, it's just not my style. Also even people who came from Germany said that it's hard for them, and Swiss people never really take them in their social circle, that took away all my motivation. I could do everything in English though except the tax returns, it just didn't feel like home to me, so like many others I came away. Good luck fitting in for you when you get there!
    - medium_burrito 6y ago
      I speak several languages fluently, so no big deal for me, but one of my talents is learning languages easily. The not fitting in is a way bigger deal in Switzerland. Germans will never be accepted, no matter what. Eastern Europeans aren't even considered people.
      - herbst 6y ago
        Then again as austrian o barely face any issues.
residentfoam 6y ago
Still, I am sure Zurich wouldn't even come close to the number of opportunities one get in SV. My LinkedIn account is always flooded by recruiters. That gives engineers leverage to seek new and better opportunities all the time. Plus networking is also a big one. Unless you get a job at Google/Oracle and planning on retiring there, SV wins hands down. The language barrier is also a no go along with cost of living.

by herbst 6y ago

xiphias2 6y ago

One of the things that would maybe help Switzerland is to make English an official language (there are already 4 langauges, supporting English wouldn't be that hard). For me dealing with Swiss laws to make a company would make things much harder than for people who speak German well.

medium_burrito 6y ago
You have 4 different official languages to choose from; surely it cannot be that hard to learn one of them for even the most meanly educated tech worker?
- xiphias2 6y ago
  I tried to learn Swiss German, but gave up quite fast, it's just not my style. Also even people who came from Germany said that it's hard for them, and Swiss people never really take them in their social circle, that took away all my motivation. I could do everything in English though except the tax returns, it just didn't feel like home to me, so like many others I came away. Good luck fitting in for you when you get there!
  - medium_burrito 6y ago
    I speak several languages fluently, so no big deal for me, but one of my talents is learning languages easily. The not fitting in is a way bigger deal in Switzerland. Germans will never be accepted, no matter what. Eastern Europeans aren't even considered people.
    - herbst 6y ago
      Then again as austrian o barely face any issues.

residentfoam 6y ago

Still, I am sure Zurich wouldn't even come close to the number of opportunities one get in SV. My LinkedIn account is always flooded by recruiters. That gives engineers leverage to seek new and better opportunities all the time. Plus networking is also a big one. Unless you get a job at Google/Oracle and planning on retiring there, SV wins hands down. The language barrier is also a no go along with cost of living.