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As a Dane, I've always felt that we should accept, maybe even appreciate, that our lot in the world is to be the Shire, while other countries get to be Gondor a
by m12k 6y ago
As a Dane, I've always felt that we should accept, maybe even appreciate, that our lot in the world is to be the Shire, while other countries get to be Gondor and Rohan. As LOTR so beautifully showed, if we have the courage to orient ourselves toward the world, and lead by example, we can inspire others, punch way above our weight, and sometimes maybe even make a difference by our own actions too.
- zwaps 6y agoOn the other hand, imprisoning refugees on an island strikes me as less hobbitlike https://time.com/5504331/denmark-migrants-lindholm-island/ https://time.com/5504331/denmark-migrants-lindholm-island/
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- veeti 6y agoA rejected asylum seeker is not a refugee.
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- rossng 6y agoThat rather depends on how honestly your government is applying the rules.
- FpUser 6y agoHave a fucking heart. Imprisoning people for trying to survive is no good.
- Lev1a 6y agoFrom TFA: > The Lindholm Island project, which is intended to house 100 or so rejected asylum seekers who have been convicted of crimes and served their sentences but cannot be deported for various reasons, is explicitly designed to create a less welcoming atmosphere than the facility that currently holds those with a similar “tolerated stay” status. Emphasis: > 100 or so rejected asylum seekers who have been convicted of crimes and served their sentences but cannot be deported for various reasons Going to European States because they have social welfare systems and then committing crimes knowing the punishments are most likely not as severe as in their home countries is unacceptable and should lead to them being automatically thrown out of the country. Unfortunately their home countries in most cases don't want to accept them back or the migrants have "lost" their passports/documentation before coming to the EU thus there's no country to deport convicted criminals back to. For the record, I as a Western/Central European have nothing against immigrants, as long as they come here to work/study/lead law-abiding lives like it's been done for decades. However coming here for no other reason than to be an eternal drag on the social benefit system and then on top of that committing crimes? IMHO that minority (from TFA ~100 out of thousands for Denmark) of immigrants is not and should not be welcome in any country.
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- m12k 6y agoDunno, sounds like something a Shiriff would do. But seriously, yes, that's despicable, that and the "jewellery law" and others like it. When I say it takes courage to orient ourselves toward the world, I didn't just mean it as a pat on our own backs, I meant it as a struggle of opposing worldviews that I've seen playing out my whole life; between those who see the outside world mostly as a danger to be held at bay, and those who see both opportunity and responsibility to care for those less fortunate than us.
- goto11 6y agoIt is intended for convicted criminals without a residence permit but who cannot be deported, for example because they risk torture or capital punishment if they are deported to their country of origin. Not trying to justify the use of an island for this purpose, but they would be imprisoned anyway since they are disbarred from residing in the country. It is not intended for regular refugees or asylum seekers.
- warent 6y agoAs a corrupt steward of Gondor who eats in the most off-putting way possible: SING FOR ME, HOBBITS