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>>not exactly amenable to liberal democracy I'm a big fan of liberal democracy, so this was an argument against involuntary commitment and forced labor, not an
by CryptoPunk 6y ago
>>not exactly amenable to liberal democracy
I'm a big fan of liberal democracy, so this was an argument against involuntary commitment and forced labor, not an argument against liberal democracy.
The 'liberal democracy' reference is not using 'liberal' in the same context as the 'liberal cities' I referred to later.
>>the vulnerable who are predated upon by drug dealers
I wouldn't characterize that as a talking point associated with the right at all. The left is known for displacing blame for the misbehavior of drug addicts onto external forces, and this particular point does the same. Though it does sound critical of drug dealers, which is a right-ish argument.
Anyway, it's impossible to not sound political, when the problem is political. And it's impossible to not be critical of the left, when it is mostly the left that is to blame. Left-wing run cities are much worse off than right-wing ones with respect to homelessness, violent crime, drug-abuse, etc, by any metric you look at, and they got that way, from a starting state of much greater social order and more functional civic life, under decades of left-wing policies that gradually became more extreme.
- DFHippie 6y ago> And it's impossible to not be critical of the left, when it is mostly the left that is to blame. QED
- jahaja 6y ago> Left-wing run cities are much worse off than right-wing ones with respect to homelessness, violent crime, drug-abuse, etc, by any metric you look at Unless of course you look at the generally much more left wing Western-Europe. But that doesn't fit your narrative.
- CryptoPunk 6y agoVancouver's drug policy is more left-wing than even Portugal's.
- jahaja 6y agoYou're missing the point. The entire societies are more left-wing.
- CryptoPunk 6y agoWhy compare the US to Europe, and not leftist cities in the US to right-wing ones in the US? That removes a huge number of potential confounding factors that could explain differences in outcome, letting the effects of differences in policy be better revealed.