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Google Music Service
- cing 15y agoScreenshots for those of us outside the US please!
- thisisblurry 15y agoI already requested an invite, but here is what the 'Thank you' page looks like: http://jhn.me/6ckz http://jhn.me/6ckz
- andrewjshults 15y agoLooks like it's currently just a beta signup page (at least that was all I got).
- skymt 15y agoHere's a YouTube demo (I don't know if it's US-only): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrNhKcxBbZo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrNhKcxBbZo And here's a screenshot of the page: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12299925/About%20Music%20Beta%20by%20Google.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12299925/About%20Music%20Beta%20by%2...
- lostbit 15y agoWe're sorry. Music Beta is currently only available in the United States It bothers me when this happens... I end giving up to find proxies or other ways to reach the site.
- p4bl0 15y agoSame here. This happen so often that I might consider renting a VPS in the US to use it as a proxy. I found some at $5/mo with 250GB/mo for bandwidth, I even think it's enough to share and pay only $2.5/mo...
- slig 15y agoFor links to ~ $5 VPSs, see http://www.lowendbox.com/ http://www.lowendbox.com/
- Plugawy 15y agoThat's what I did - I got a cheapest VPS for $5 so that I can stream stuff from Hulu/CrunchyRoll/and few other services. Plus - it's always useful to have a VPS anyway.
- mustpax 15y agoDo you just port forward with SSH via -D? Or do you use some sort of VPN solution?
- p4bl0 15y agoYep what I would do is just `ssh -C -N -D <port> <host>` and then tell my browser to use the SOCKS proxy at localhost:<port>. (BTW, -D create a SOCKS proxy, port fowarding is done using -L :-).)
- invisible 15y agoTry http://grooveshark.com http://grooveshark.com?
- thomasgerbe 15y agoWhy does this bother you? Spotify doesn't work in the U.S... so I just don't use it. It's not like my life is that much harmed by it.
- thisisblurry 15y agoHere's the help page that might provide some extra information: http://www.google.com/support/music/ http://www.google.com/support/music/
- imcdowell 15y agoThe "about" page is also slightly more interesting: http://music.google.com/about/ http://music.google.com/about/
- smackfu 15y agoI would have thought Google had learned their lesson about doing limited roll-outs: that artificially limiting the network effect kills your product. What worked for GMail hasn't worked anywhere else.
- fletchowns 15y agoSeemed to do nothing but the opposite when they rolled out gmail.
- smackfu 15y agoMy argument would be that GMail didn't need network effects since it was just email and you could easily use GMail while your friends still used whatever they used to use. Contrast to Wave where limited invites kept your friends from using it which kept you from using it.
- ChrisArchitect 15y agothis music thing isn't a social thing at all really though, it's pure utility and convenience. In this form anyways.
- citricsquid 15y agogmail was a product that was superior to anything any one had used before. If they were rolling out gmail today (assuming current gmail exists and is owned by another company) it would not work.
- bittermang 15y agoWell, Gmail was also, you know, useful. Limited availability and invites worked because you were using this useful thing no one else had, and telling them about it made them want it, and then you held the keys to let them in. It lended itself to that kind of natural organic yet viral growth.
- kin 15y agovs the full roll out that was Google Buzz? Limited roll outs are common for Betas. Had Buzz been a limited roll out they would have recognized its faults much earlier and there would have been less privacy issues.
- cypherpunks01 15y agoFrom the screenshot, it looks even less useful than Amazon's player. You have to upload all of your own music yourself, which would take forever for anyone who has a collection big enough that they can't carry on their phone or ipod. Also, there is absolutely no conceivable benefit to musicians. At least amazon allows you to easily buy albums. There doesn't appear to be any useful additional functionality either. Social interaction, concert ticket listings, artist info, last.fm tag data, lyrics and all the other things I'd want from a google music service don't look like they're going to be available.
- paul9290 15y agoI agree .. when i had my music collection saved/backed up on 3 different hard-drives which all crashed I had 5,000 songs. Overall that would take me way to long to upload and manage! These days Pandora, YouTube and Vevo on my iPhone or other computing devices provides me with a better experience; free, instant access wherever, no worries about hard drive crashing & no need to upload/manage tons and tons of songs...
- petervandijck 15y agoI think you forget the core value: listen to your music everywhere. That isn't compelling?
- thought_alarm 15y agoIt is, and that's exactly what I used to do with a Linux box running as a dedicated jukebox for both my home stereo and for internet streaming. It was terrific. Then I got an iPod.
- cypherpunks01 15y agoYes, that is quite a compelling feature, but I feel like there's nothing revolutionary about it. The non-technically-inclined have been using Grooveshark for a few years to do that, and nerds can just run their own streaming mp3 servers. I'm just a bit disappointed that there isn't any nice functionality like I mentioned above - this seems like just another cloud storage service with a decent and simple Flash interface on top.
- bherms 15y agoLooks like they're finally putting the Simplify Media technology to use. That was my favorite app on iPhone and I used it at work constantly too.
- est 15y agoNote: music.google.cn is available in China for years now.
- cypherpunks01 15y agoCan you explain very briefly what it does? The only part I can read is "Music streaming/download services are not available in your region" Is it the same product they're rolling out in the US?
- est 15y agobasically it allows you seach and listen to almost any music for free, with one click.
- liuliu 15y agoIt is not the same. It is free for search, download and stream, and Google China actually has a deal with big Chinese Record Labels. But from what learned years ago, it cannot stream music to mobile devices.
- est 15y ago> a deal with big Chinese Record Labels Are you sure? music.google.cn is cooperated with YaoMing's top100.cn, here is the list of labels http://www.top100.cn/corparation/ http://www.top100.cn/corparation/
- meow 15y agoIndian version: http://www.google.co.in/music http://www.google.co.in/music It just lets you search and listen to songs.. doesn't let you store anything...
- desigooner 15y agosame with Google India. THey've had streaming music for a while
- habitualcoder 15y agoThe look and feel somehow looks inconsistent with other google products
- cyanbane 15y agoI personally think this is a good thing. I think Google does a great job of getting utility out of their UX, and while this doesn't really do more than the utility of streaming music for the realm of competitors that it is venturing up against I think the more "non-google" it looks, the better. (Disclaimer: I have not used the android music marketplace, which I think might be closest to this area of design for Google of stuff they already had live).
- MatthewPhillips 15y agoCould you explain a little more? The web interface is just like the Android Market. The Android phone player is a different UI though.
- mredbord 15y agoI think that's precisely what parent comment is referencing; the Music design scheme may be familiar to Android users, but non-Android users likely see it as a bit surprising/inconsistent. Two quick examples: button styling and top account-bar background. This is also somewhat revealing of how Google wants this app perceived. I see it as leaning _heavily_ toward a native experience on Android devices, and a push from that mobile experience into the browser. It's interesting.
- martingordon 15y agoRequires Flash; no Linux manager available.
- cypherpunks01 15y agoWhere's the HTML5 love? :(
- kin 15y agoi wonder how much space we'll be given. i can't seem to find it on any of the screens
- glhaynes 15y agoThey had a slide that said "20,000 songs".
- mxavier 15y agoIf you were to go for a (really) conservative estimate of 3MB/mp3, that tops out at 7.5GB. I'd be interested in hearing what their pricing would be for more space. I jumped the gun and bought 50gb worth of space on Amazon Cloud Drive. Their player and lack of linux support both suck so if Google can beat them on either front and price, I might switch. At this point I trust Google alot more than Amazon at developing a good software product.
- slackerIII 15y agoIf you are interested in this problem but can't get into the beta yet, check out my app: http://www.audiogalaxy.com http://www.audiogalaxy.com. You have to leave your home computer running, but it is totally free, available outside of the US, and has both Android and iOS apps.
- jbk 15y agoDo you have an API for your service?
- slackerIII 15y agoWe do. http://www.audiogalaxy.com/misc/developer http://www.audiogalaxy.com/misc/developer
- jeffclark 15y agoOh my... did you guys (Audiogalaxy) have P2P file downloading waaay back in the day, like 2001-2002? I want to say the first or second thing I was told by roommates to install when I booted up my first computer in college was an Audiogalaxy client. Logo looks familiar... name sounds familiar... say it's so?
- slackerIII 15y agoYup, that is us. We were out of the music biz for a while (http://www.crunchbase.com/company/foldershare http://www.crunchbase.com/company/foldershare) but are back now with a slightly different business model.
- jamesbritt 15y agoAudiogalaxy doesn't support Linux natively. However, you can run it under Wine. :( I'll give it a shot using Wine, but a real client would be so much better.
- dfreidin 15y agoI think I've looked at this in the past, and it's almost exactly what I want, but I'd rather be able to have a service running on my computer and be able to have the associated app log directly into my computer without having to have an account with someone else. Does anyone know any system to do that?
- jmjerlecki 15y agoWhy would I pay for this over a service I already pay for and love (Rdio)? Looking for some thoughts
- aw3c2 15y agoLooking at your comment history I have to wonder if this is a genuine question or random negative grumpy rhetoric trolling. Rdio seems to have a selected catalogue, while you could upload your own collection to this Google Music service.
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- MatthewPhillips 15y agoYou probably don't. Not every service is made for every (potential) customer. Rdio/MOG/Rhapsody are for a segment of music listeners that like music enough that they are willing to pay ~$120 a year for unlimited streaming but not enough to have the really obscure tastes that those services don't provide. Google Music, Amazon MP3, MP3Tunes and other "locker services" are for people who want to stream their music, but don't buy enough to warrant a monthly subscription.
- megaman821 15y agoI assume both Amazon and Google want to acquire the licenses to do what Rdio does, but what they do that Rdio doesn't is allow you to play songs that aren't licensed for streaming services. Also, they playback your songs at whatever bit-rate you uploaded them at (which might be consider a negative when listening to music over a cell phone network).
- cyanbane 15y agoI am a huge fan of rdio and use it daily. However my collections of live shows and misc stuff will never make it up to my rdio account as of now. Thats a +1 for a music locker service.
- cyanbane 15y agoOne thing that I have been thinking about in relation to all these new streaming services coming out is that one thing that I am really keen on seeing is if the service will allow exporting of your listens, to last.fm for scrobling or just general export of listen analytics. I am hoping it is in the pipe line for Amazon & Google and whatever Apple delivers - however I am not holding my breath. I think google has the best shot of allowing the data captured out but for people like myself who really enjoying sending that info into other people's suggestion algos I hope with this new line of services I am not put in a box and forced to only use on the suggestion features of the provider (which usually only ends up being from record companies whom they have deals with). Don't fail me Google ;) !
- technotony 15y agoI'm getting the 'only available in the United States error' could someone let us know how much this service will cost?
- jbail 15y agoIs the service called "Music Beta"? Or is it just that the Music service is currently in a beta release? The logo is pretty confusing with equal size given to both 'music' and 'beta'. While I'm excited to try the service, I find the logo a bit awkward and underwhelming.
- thisisblurry 15y agoGoogle has decided that music in general is still in the beta stage. I don't see them ever removing that label.
- zacharypinter 15y agoI would love for them to integrate podcasts with this. Google Listen is great, but is definitely showing its age.
- tedmiston 15y agoThis would be compelling with an iOS client. Until then...
- nek4life 15y agoThis is not what I thought they would be releasing at all. I was hoping that it would just introspect your personal music collection and allow you access to any track that it found that had a match in their music catalog. I really don't want to upload my entire music collection somewhere else as it would take forever and while it's free now there may be usage fees on transfer in the future.
- kin 15y agoi drool to what you thought they would be releasing. EDIT: by drool i mean salivate. that certainly sounds like an amazing service.
- smhinsey 15y agoThe frustrating thing is that's how lala worked. The upside is that maybe possibly Apple will keep that feature for their version of it.
- res0nat0r 15y agoThis would be great, but I don't think the music industry would in any way allow this. I think I just read something that they are trying to pressure Amazon into actually storing a copy of the same mp3 for every user which is using their cloud service in S3. This is their way of trying to cause pain to Amazon, in that they want a 'physical copy' of each media file for every user which has access to the tune.
- erikpukinskis 15y agoI can't imagine Google is thrilled about using Flash. How long before Chrome gets DRM?