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> These days, it seems like having several two-year stints ought to classify you as either complacent about your career progression or pretty lucky, depending.

> These days, it seems like having several two-year stints ought to classify you as either complacent about your career progression or pretty lucky, depending. I'd think of being at two places over several years being either complacent or lucky. I wouldn't think of being at several places for two years each as complacent or lucky... I do not think being at places for less than two years as the ideal scenario or a great candidate. Unless the person is hopping from FAANG to FAANG (hopping for pay bumps) - I look at it like how I've had it... They had to go from one shitty job to another because they couldn't get the right one.

webmaven 6y ago
> I'd think of being at two places over several years being either complacent or lucky. What's your lower bound on 'several years', in this context? Taken literally it's 'three or more', but not everyone uses the word that way. > Unless the person is hopping from FAANG to FAANG (hopping for pay bumps) I wasn't thinking of pay bumps per-se, but of promotions for increased responsibility. > They had to go from one shitty job to another because they couldn't get the right one. Sure, but employers are often insecure. The thought that follows that is "what if they think this job is shitty and then leave?" Employers hate turnover and tend to like having evidence that you will stick around. No matter what the reason is that you didn't stick around somewhere else, however justified or understandable, that reason can't provide the evidence they want.
- bradlys 6y ago
  If someone doesn't use few and uses "several" then I presume "several" means "seve"n or more. Yes, literal language of several allows for 3 or more but we'd use few then. And it's clearly not many - which I put in the 10+ bucket typically. In my opinion, several years in this context between two companies would be at least 7 years total - however, I think 4-5+ years at one company is a sign of complacency or you got lucky. So, I'd think spending 10 years at two companies very much a sign of complacency or luckiness. I can't imagine doing it unless I got really lucky. Great managers, great organization, great team, decent work, and, of course, great pay... but that is incredibly rare as far as the social circle I'm involved in goes. So, chase the pay at least.

webmaven 6y ago

> I'd think of being at two places over several years being either complacent or lucky. What's your lower bound on 'several years', in this context? Taken literally it's 'three or more', but not everyone uses the word that way. > Unless the person is hopping from FAANG to FAANG (hopping for pay bumps) I wasn't thinking of pay bumps per-se, but of promotions for increased responsibility. > They had to go from one shitty job to another because they couldn't get the right one. Sure, but employers are often insecure. The thought that follows that is "what if they think this job is shitty and then leave?" Employers hate turnover and tend to like having evidence that you will stick around. No matter what the reason is that you didn't stick around somewhere else, however justified or understandable, that reason can't provide the evidence they want.

bradlys 6y ago
If someone doesn't use few and uses "several" then I presume "several" means "seve"n or more. Yes, literal language of several allows for 3 or more but we'd use few then. And it's clearly not many - which I put in the 10+ bucket typically. In my opinion, several years in this context between two companies would be at least 7 years total - however, I think 4-5+ years at one company is a sign of complacency or you got lucky. So, I'd think spending 10 years at two companies very much a sign of complacency or luckiness. I can't imagine doing it unless I got really lucky. Great managers, great organization, great team, decent work, and, of course, great pay... but that is incredibly rare as far as the social circle I'm involved in goes. So, chase the pay at least.