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Testing is great, but that's not a measure of risk. For every 100 people who eat at a restaurant, how many get the virus? For every 100 people working on a fil

by imgabe 6y ago

Testing is great, but that's not a measure of risk. For every 100 people who eat at a restaurant, how many get the virus? For every 100 people working on a film set how many get the virus? These are the numbers we should look at to compare one vs. the other.

gamblor956 6y ago
For the first one, it depends on the local population and the type of restaurant. There is documented evidence that dining in bars in the South have resulted in hundreds of cases of COVID transmission, while at the same time there are few documented cases of COVID transmission related to outdoor dining in CA over the summer. For the second one: 0. There have been 0 known instances of cast or crew getting COVID while on set, because upon reporting a single instance of a positive result, they require the cast/crew member to quarantine. In some cases, they have even shut down production for the quarantine period to prevent spread, see, e.g., The Batman.
- imgabe 6y ago
  If there are reports of people testing positive on the set, how do you know it wasn't transmitted on the set? People are saying they get tested every 3-4 days. If you get a positive test, that means there were up to 4 days the person was on set, potentially positive. 0, like absolutely no instances of anyone every contracting the virus on a set does not make sense with those circumstances.
  - gamblor956 6y ago
    Yes, if you start with the premise that everyone is only getting tested every 4 days, you would theoretically have that problem. I have several dozen friends in Hollywood working in broadcast, cable, streaming, and film. They are all being tested at least every other day using the rapid test (results within minutes), with a second rapid test within minutes if the first test is positive for covid. The last time any of them was tested as infrequently as every 3-4 days was back in September before cases started surging again. Right now, almost all of them are being tested daily. Compared to the costs of shutting down production for 2 weeks or more, daily testing is cheap. So, for someone to have caught COVID on set, someone else on set would have had to have (a) been infected, (b) been asymptomatic, (c) received multiple false negatives from the rapid-result test without any positives,(d) and received a negative on their most recent slow test. Can that happen? Sure. Has it happened? No. There are no reported incidents yet of multiple cast or crew members developing covid once they started working on set. While there have been incidents of multiple cast/crew members testing positive for covid, in all situations to date this involved cast or crew traveling to non-local filming locations, with symptoms showing up during the mandatory quarantine period for traveling cast/crew.

by imgabe 6y ago

gamblor956 6y ago

For the first one, it depends on the local population and the type of restaurant. There is documented evidence that dining in bars in the South have resulted in hundreds of cases of COVID transmission, while at the same time there are few documented cases of COVID transmission related to outdoor dining in CA over the summer. For the second one: 0. There have been 0 known instances of cast or crew getting COVID while on set, because upon reporting a single instance of a positive result, they require the cast/crew member to quarantine. In some cases, they have even shut down production for the quarantine period to prevent spread, see, e.g., The Batman.

imgabe 6y ago
If there are reports of people testing positive on the set, how do you know it wasn't transmitted on the set? People are saying they get tested every 3-4 days. If you get a positive test, that means there were up to 4 days the person was on set, potentially positive. 0, like absolutely no instances of anyone every contracting the virus on a set does not make sense with those circumstances.
- gamblor956 6y ago
  Yes, if you start with the premise that everyone is only getting tested every 4 days, you would theoretically have that problem. I have several dozen friends in Hollywood working in broadcast, cable, streaming, and film. They are all being tested at least every other day using the rapid test (results within minutes), with a second rapid test within minutes if the first test is positive for covid. The last time any of them was tested as infrequently as every 3-4 days was back in September before cases started surging again. Right now, almost all of them are being tested daily. Compared to the costs of shutting down production for 2 weeks or more, daily testing is cheap. So, for someone to have caught COVID on set, someone else on set would have had to have (a) been infected, (b) been asymptomatic, (c) received multiple false negatives from the rapid-result test without any positives,(d) and received a negative on their most recent slow test. Can that happen? Sure. Has it happened? No. There are no reported incidents yet of multiple cast or crew members developing covid once they started working on set. While there have been incidents of multiple cast/crew members testing positive for covid, in all situations to date this involved cast or crew traveling to non-local filming locations, with symptoms showing up during the mandatory quarantine period for traveling cast/crew.