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Or they do, are rare, and haven't yet been reliably identified: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31640707/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31640707/ The fact th

Or they do, are rare, and haven't yet been reliably identified: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31640707/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31640707/ The fact that the "new name" (IEI) seems to ignore/discredit the primary claims of the sufferers at the outset, and that a multi-billion (trillion?) dollar industry would somewhat prefer these people don't exist, I remain skeptical of recent studies. (A view no doubt also biased by personal experience.) That older studies show the effect, and newer ones don't isn't a smoking gun, but it is a cause for skepticism. At least, one thing almost all studies agree on is "more research is required".

Jabbles 6y ago
Your link does not support that - whilst it admits the possibility that the effects "must be very weak or affect only few individuals" it does not suggest that "more research is required", and suggests that other environmental factors or the nocebo effect is to blame. I read the last sentence of the conclusion as suggesting that researchers stop wasting their time with false reports due to poor experimental setup. You have the need for scepticism round the wrong way. Scepticism is needed when dealing with claims that some humans can detect radio frequencies, despite no single human that has been tested being able to demonstrate such a skill, and no proposed mechanism for how this should be possible.
- txmachinery 6y ago
  As I explained, most of the research indicating positive results is old (meaning before the 70's). Though there were some in the 90's (eg, William Rea et al. https://eloverkanslig.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/William-J.-Rea-Electromagnetic-Field-Sensitivity.pdf https://eloverkanslig.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/William... ) But set that aside that for a moment. Consider that it's well-established that EMF can and does affect human tissue, and it's also well-established that some humans are extraordinarily sensitive and susceptible to harm from tiny doses of just about anything you can name (versus "normal" people who aren't). Therefore, I have no idea why ordinarily intelligent people will readily believe EMF/RF hypersensitivity to be completely impossible. For often-overlooked background in EMF research and health effects, here is a comprehensive list of 2300 (pre-70's) studies: https://www.emfanalysis.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Naval-Medical-Research-Institute-2300-Studies-on-EMF-Health-Effects.pdf https://www.emfanalysis.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Naval... You might also consider US NTP's study on cellphone radiation.

Jabbles 6y ago

Your link does not support that - whilst it admits the possibility that the effects "must be very weak or affect only few individuals" it does not suggest that "more research is required", and suggests that other environmental factors or the nocebo effect is to blame. I read the last sentence of the conclusion as suggesting that researchers stop wasting their time with false reports due to poor experimental setup. You have the need for scepticism round the wrong way. Scepticism is needed when dealing with claims that some humans can detect radio frequencies, despite no single human that has been tested being able to demonstrate such a skill, and no proposed mechanism for how this should be possible.

txmachinery 6y ago
As I explained, most of the research indicating positive results is old (meaning before the 70's). Though there were some in the 90's (eg, William Rea et al. https://eloverkanslig.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/William-J.-Rea-Electromagnetic-Field-Sensitivity.pdf https://eloverkanslig.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/William... ) But set that aside that for a moment. Consider that it's well-established that EMF can and does affect human tissue, and it's also well-established that some humans are extraordinarily sensitive and susceptible to harm from tiny doses of just about anything you can name (versus "normal" people who aren't). Therefore, I have no idea why ordinarily intelligent people will readily believe EMF/RF hypersensitivity to be completely impossible. For often-overlooked background in EMF research and health effects, here is a comprehensive list of 2300 (pre-70's) studies: https://www.emfanalysis.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Naval-Medical-Research-Institute-2300-Studies-on-EMF-Health-Effects.pdf https://www.emfanalysis.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Naval... You might also consider US NTP's study on cellphone radiation.