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> Praying Medic misunderstands Bush v Gore. SCOTUS took the extraordinary step in that ruling of declaring the circumstances so unique that the case should not

> Praying Medic misunderstands Bush v Gore. SCOTUS took the extraordinary step in that ruling of declaring the circumstances so unique that the case should not be cited as common-law precedent. Anyone citing it has to explain why the Court should disregard SCOTUS's own guidance not to cite it. Even if they do, its particulars don't generally apply to the cases the Trump campaign is bringing Bush v Gore isn't intended to apply in the cases the Trump campaign is bringing. It will apply to cases brought against state legislatures by Democrats. However, those cases will be too late to change anything. > Imposing martial law would simply be the death of American democracy, not some master chess move. But, blue states and cities are already under martial law, and most Americans can see it. The Insurrection act will end up invoked, like it has been in the past. > We'd just be another nation where a tyrant tried military force to keep his power illegitimately. Sowing doubt in the legitimate process to justify a power grab is right out of the playbook. Yet, conservatives see it the other way, where a dictator tried fraud, sedition and treason to seize power illegitimately. Doubt in the legitimate process started the moment election observers were ordered to leave, when counting was stopped the night of Nov. 3rd. Its only a conspiracy theory until proven. I'm not telling you what should happen, I'm telling you to prepare yourself, because this will happen.

shadowgovt 6y ago
It wouldn't be the first time a population is gripped by a conspiracy theory explaining their woes with fantasy instead of fact. Again, Germany before World War II. That doesn't make it right or just, and if it happens, the people that history will recognize as the freedom fighters will be ones who take up arms against it. I don't see it as guaranteed as you seem to, possibly because I'm not watching conspiracy theorists at the level you seem to be. In the real world, while it's illegal to say so because military law prevents denigrating the commander-in-chief, 2/3 of the military hates Trump's guts and will not follow his orders if he tells them to turn guns on citizens nationwide. And were it to happen, the military at the federal level would be fighting the various national guards, because there's no way governors of most states will cede that power. > It's only a conspiracy theory until proven Conspiracy theories are never proven, that's what makes them conspiracy theories. They make wrong predictions and then move the goal posts when those predictions don't come to fruition. in this case, it's the same conspiracy that believed there was a pedophilia ring operating out of the basement of a pizza parlor with no basement. I'll be interested, academically, to see how QAnon moves the goal posts yet again when the Supreme Court refrains from hearing the petitions to throw out Pennsylvania votes.
- Fjolsvith 6y ago
  https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2020/12/04/exclusive-the-fbi-is-investigating-voter-data-theft-in-this-key-2020-election-battleground/?sh=52a79bb34a47 https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2020/12/04/exclu... Not a conspiracy theory.
  - shadowgovt 6y ago
    """ But there is no evidence to suggest that any theft of voter registration data could’ve had an impact on the election in Arizona. It’s possible to simply buy voter data from Maricopa County, costing as little as $328 for 1 million or more records. The systems used to count votes in Maricopa County were not affected. And despite fears of foreign interference and voter fraud, the DHS’ Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) has stated the 2020 election was the “most secure in American history.” """ The story appears to degrade the stolen election conspiracy theory, not reinforce it.
    - Fjolsvith 6y ago
      And now I read SCOTUS has asked for arguments tomorrow morning in the Pennsylvania case, eliminating safe harbor protection for those electors. Seems to me that if they don't rule tomorrow, those electors get thrown out.
      - shadowgovt 6y ago
        How would those electors get thrown out if SCOTUS does not rule tomorrow?
    - Fjolsvith 6y ago
      Listen, I got a video for you to check out. https://www.brighteon.com/6bbae6f0-b443-4985-9f2c-889c8c6d4ae9 https://www.brighteon.com/6bbae6f0-b443-4985-9f2c-889c8c6d4a... About 40 minutes in is where the juicy stuff starts, although you might find the rest interesting. I really like you, and the discussions we have. I want you to understand the magnitude of what is going to happen.

shadowgovt 6y ago

It wouldn't be the first time a population is gripped by a conspiracy theory explaining their woes with fantasy instead of fact. Again, Germany before World War II. That doesn't make it right or just, and if it happens, the people that history will recognize as the freedom fighters will be ones who take up arms against it. I don't see it as guaranteed as you seem to, possibly because I'm not watching conspiracy theorists at the level you seem to be. In the real world, while it's illegal to say so because military law prevents denigrating the commander-in-chief, 2/3 of the military hates Trump's guts and will not follow his orders if he tells them to turn guns on citizens nationwide. And were it to happen, the military at the federal level would be fighting the various national guards, because there's no way governors of most states will cede that power. > It's only a conspiracy theory until proven Conspiracy theories are never proven, that's what makes them conspiracy theories. They make wrong predictions and then move the goal posts when those predictions don't come to fruition. in this case, it's the same conspiracy that believed there was a pedophilia ring operating out of the basement of a pizza parlor with no basement. I'll be interested, academically, to see how QAnon moves the goal posts yet again when the Supreme Court refrains from hearing the petitions to throw out Pennsylvania votes.

Fjolsvith 6y ago
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2020/12/04/exclusive-the-fbi-is-investigating-voter-data-theft-in-this-key-2020-election-battleground/?sh=52a79bb34a47 https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2020/12/04/exclu... Not a conspiracy theory.
- shadowgovt 6y ago
  """ But there is no evidence to suggest that any theft of voter registration data could’ve had an impact on the election in Arizona. It’s possible to simply buy voter data from Maricopa County, costing as little as $328 for 1 million or more records. The systems used to count votes in Maricopa County were not affected. And despite fears of foreign interference and voter fraud, the DHS’ Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) has stated the 2020 election was the “most secure in American history.” """ The story appears to degrade the stolen election conspiracy theory, not reinforce it.
  - Fjolsvith 6y ago
    And now I read SCOTUS has asked for arguments tomorrow morning in the Pennsylvania case, eliminating safe harbor protection for those electors. Seems to me that if they don't rule tomorrow, those electors get thrown out.
    - shadowgovt 6y ago
      How would those electors get thrown out if SCOTUS does not rule tomorrow?
  - Fjolsvith 6y ago
    Listen, I got a video for you to check out. https://www.brighteon.com/6bbae6f0-b443-4985-9f2c-889c8c6d4ae9 https://www.brighteon.com/6bbae6f0-b443-4985-9f2c-889c8c6d4a... About 40 minutes in is where the juicy stuff starts, although you might find the rest interesting. I really like you, and the discussions we have. I want you to understand the magnitude of what is going to happen.