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I'm confused. Why does this get to the front page and why does it have over 200 stars on github? I'm not a webdev at all, but this just looks like 100 lines of

I'm confused. Why does this get to the front page and why does it have over 200 stars on github? I'm not a webdev at all, but this just looks like 100 lines of trivial CSS to me. What am I missing?

dirtnugget 6y ago
These classless CSS frameworks are insanely popular on HN. There’s one on the front page every other week.
susam 6y ago
> I'm not a webdev at all, but this just looks like 100 lines of trivial CSS to me. What am I missing? I am not a webdev either. This is a trivial CSS indeed. I don't think you are missing anything. When I posted this on Hacker News, I was hoping some people would like it because they might find it useful. Like I said, I am not really a front-end developer. But I do hack up simple HTML pages together for simple text-based websites from time to time. While doing so, I find myself using this minimal (and trivial) CSS frequently to make the page appear slightly more pleasing compared to what it looks like with the browser defaults, so I moved all that CSS out to a separate repository and shared it here. It is useful to me. If it is useful to someone else, that's a bonus!
- wruza 6y ago
  Your demo looks nice. This is what I’d expect from browsers’ default stylesheets if these were not a tasteless disaster that nobody can stand.
  - enriquto 6y ago
    > default stylesheets if these were not a tasteless disaster that nobody can stand. I beg to disagree. Having browsed quite a few sites with css disabled over the years, I can assess that default stylesheets tend to grow in you and that you may end up liking them. In a saner world, all sites would use default stylesheets (with empty css), and individual users would set up whatever css they deem beautiful each day.
    - rmetzler 6y ago
      I kind of agree, because I like to use the Reader view on mobile. What I dislike most about the default css on most browsers is the New Times Roman font and the fact that content can take the whole width of the browser view.
      - enriquto 6y ago
        I like the times new roman font, but you can easily change it in your browser configuration if it bothers you. Regarding full-width content, maybe your browser window is too wide? or your font is too small?
- bertylicious 6y ago
  Ok, now it makes more sense to me. Thanks for clearing that up!
alpaca128 6y ago
I can see it being useful as a kind of preset that's not fancy but can help save time if you just want the bare minimum to make the site readable and focus on the content. For some sites you just don't want to dive into CSS or some framework to get it to a "good enough" state.
arendtio 6y ago
The minimal amount of CSS lines is a feature. So the idea is to create an appealing website with the minimal amount of simple CSS. The motivation comes from other CSS frameworks which have thousands of lines and due to the inheriting structure of CSS can be a challenge to integrate or update in existing projects.

I'm confused. Why does this get to the front page and why does it have over 200 stars on github? I'm not a webdev at all, but this just looks like 100 lines of trivial CSS to me. What am I missing?

dirtnugget 6y ago

These classless CSS frameworks are insanely popular on HN. There’s one on the front page every other week.

susam 6y ago

> I'm not a webdev at all, but this just looks like 100 lines of trivial CSS to me. What am I missing? I am not a webdev either. This is a trivial CSS indeed. I don't think you are missing anything. When I posted this on Hacker News, I was hoping some people would like it because they might find it useful. Like I said, I am not really a front-end developer. But I do hack up simple HTML pages together for simple text-based websites from time to time. While doing so, I find myself using this minimal (and trivial) CSS frequently to make the page appear slightly more pleasing compared to what it looks like with the browser defaults, so I moved all that CSS out to a separate repository and shared it here. It is useful to me. If it is useful to someone else, that's a bonus!

wruza 6y ago
Your demo looks nice. This is what I’d expect from browsers’ default stylesheets if these were not a tasteless disaster that nobody can stand.
- enriquto 6y ago
  > default stylesheets if these were not a tasteless disaster that nobody can stand. I beg to disagree. Having browsed quite a few sites with css disabled over the years, I can assess that default stylesheets tend to grow in you and that you may end up liking them. In a saner world, all sites would use default stylesheets (with empty css), and individual users would set up whatever css they deem beautiful each day.
  - rmetzler 6y ago
    I kind of agree, because I like to use the Reader view on mobile. What I dislike most about the default css on most browsers is the New Times Roman font and the fact that content can take the whole width of the browser view.
    - enriquto 6y ago
      I like the times new roman font, but you can easily change it in your browser configuration if it bothers you. Regarding full-width content, maybe your browser window is too wide? or your font is too small?
bertylicious 6y ago
Ok, now it makes more sense to me. Thanks for clearing that up!

alpaca128 6y ago

I can see it being useful as a kind of preset that's not fancy but can help save time if you just want the bare minimum to make the site readable and focus on the content. For some sites you just don't want to dive into CSS or some framework to get it to a "good enough" state.

arendtio 6y ago

The minimal amount of CSS lines is a feature. So the idea is to create an appealing website with the minimal amount of simple CSS. The motivation comes from other CSS frameworks which have thousands of lines and due to the inheriting structure of CSS can be a challenge to integrate or update in existing projects.