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Has Teams actually overtaken Slack? This is anecdotal of course, but all the companies I have worked at and all the companies I know of use Slack and are fairly

Has Teams actually overtaken Slack? This is anecdotal of course, but all the companies I have worked at and all the companies I know of use Slack and are fairly happy with it. No plans to use Microsoft products at all. But as I said, this is anecdotal and I'd be interested in knowing more. I don't see actual numbers for comparison anywhere. Slack has published concurrent users count while Teams has published DAU, which are obviously different.

ssss11 6y ago
Alternatively all the companies i know of use Teams. These are huge corporations that already have tons of MS.
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augustocallejas 6y ago
12 vs 115 million, according to the second paragraph of the article: > In its letter, Slack warned Microsoft that “Slack is here to stay,” adding, “We’re just getting started.” But the 4 million users it had at the time would increase to just 12 million four years later, while Microsoft — which added Teams to its 365 bundle without increasing the price — took Teams from zero to 115 million users.
- rozab 6y ago
  Teams got autoinstalled onto my 8 year old Windows 8 desktop.
- Jakobeha 6y ago
  idk where they are getting those numbers though. I've had classes, jobs, etc. which all use Slack, I've never used Microsoft Teams even once. Both my undergrad and graduate colleges give me a free 365 subscription though, which means that me and every other college student could have been counted
  - toyg 6y ago
    As a counter-anecdata, I’ve gone three jobs using only Teams - in one case they had explicitly rejected Slack on the basis of price. My daughter also uses Teams for school.
    - clows 6y ago
      Same anecdata here (EU) - Kids use Teams for distance learning, pretty much every larger company uses teams (and to some extend zoom) due to the Covid situation. Hardly anyone even knows slack exists. Everyone knows and uses teams.
  - wp381640 6y ago
    That's DAU's - M365 has 200M+ MAU's Teams isn't a complete subset of M365 though since you can have guest users from outside the org which would count towards the DAU What you're missing is that M365 is huge in enterprises. Last stat I saw is they've hit 90%+ of the Fortune 500.
tiew9Vii 6y ago
I’ve contracted at a couple of large orgs. Previously when I’ve been at them they where on Slack, more recently they use Teams. People complain about using Teams compared to Slack but Teams seems good enough for the people paying for Slack to decide to stop using it. Teams being bundled with Office 365 is a huge value proposition. It’s not a case of who’s best, Slack seems more useful but can never compete with free which Teams is if you already have Office 365 which most large orgs do. Teams video chat is way better than Slack also which may of helped this past year with working from home.
- cagey 6y ago
  Agree. At my employer the largest engineering BU has been a zealous user of Slack for many years. Problem is, Slack seat licenses aren't free (and are thus rationed) and TPBT are balking at adding any more Slack seats now that corp IT is aggressively pushing Teams which is apparently free (since the overall corp has grown a dependence on some mishmash of O365). The Slack zealots thus appear to be fighting a (losing) rearguard battle against being forced onto Teams.
- robjan 6y ago
  Teams tends to be used by bigcorps with tens of thousands of hundreds of thousands of staff. Why buy and audit another tool when you already have a Office 365 subscription for the Org.
  - laichzeit0 6y ago
    Not even just big orgs. I’m at a small org, our infra is all cloud, office 365 and we use use Teams because why pay money for Slack if Teams is free?
    - throwaway201103 6y ago
      If Slack is better than Teams and boosts productivity enough to be worth the cost, why wouldn't you pay money for it? I'm not saying this is the case, but just because Teams is free doesn't mean people won't pay for a better alternative. Clearly there are examples of free office software suites that nobody uses because Office365 is so much better that it's worth the cost.
HeyLaughingBoy 6y ago
The only anecdote I have is that we started out with Slack and moved on to Teams, which we prefer. It was just an easier integration with our existing systems.
Nextgrid 6y ago
Teams has only "won" in large enterprise environments who are already full-Microsoft and who used Skype for Business/Lync before. I'd argue this is not really Slack's competition as Slack would've been a non-starter for many of these companies to begin with. Teams however definitely didn't win the small business/startup game where tools are actually chosen based on functionality (and where end-users have a say in which tools to use) and Microsoft's market-penetration is lower or non-existent (so the bundling of Teams with Office 365 has no effect). In these cases, Slack wins by a large margin on functionality and performance alone considering how bad Teams is.
dagw 6y ago
I work at largish company (13k employees worldwide), and a couple of years ago there was a fair amount of Slack (admittedly mainly free tier) being used ad hoc around the company. Then word came down from up high that the company was standardizing on a single chat platform and that platform was Teams. Now there is basically no Slack being used (and certainly no paid Slack) any more. The main argument was that Slack for 13k employees was incredibly expensive, while Teams was 'free' and already integrated into most of their infrastructure.

ssss11 6y ago

Alternatively all the companies i know of use Teams. These are huge corporations that already have tons of MS.

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augustocallejas 6y ago

12 vs 115 million, according to the second paragraph of the article: > In its letter, Slack warned Microsoft that “Slack is here to stay,” adding, “We’re just getting started.” But the 4 million users it had at the time would increase to just 12 million four years later, while Microsoft — which added Teams to its 365 bundle without increasing the price — took Teams from zero to 115 million users.

rozab 6y ago
Teams got autoinstalled onto my 8 year old Windows 8 desktop.
Jakobeha 6y ago
idk where they are getting those numbers though. I've had classes, jobs, etc. which all use Slack, I've never used Microsoft Teams even once. Both my undergrad and graduate colleges give me a free 365 subscription though, which means that me and every other college student could have been counted
- toyg 6y ago
  As a counter-anecdata, I’ve gone three jobs using only Teams - in one case they had explicitly rejected Slack on the basis of price. My daughter also uses Teams for school.
  - clows 6y ago
    Same anecdata here (EU) - Kids use Teams for distance learning, pretty much every larger company uses teams (and to some extend zoom) due to the Covid situation. Hardly anyone even knows slack exists. Everyone knows and uses teams.
- wp381640 6y ago
  That's DAU's - M365 has 200M+ MAU's Teams isn't a complete subset of M365 though since you can have guest users from outside the org which would count towards the DAU What you're missing is that M365 is huge in enterprises. Last stat I saw is they've hit 90%+ of the Fortune 500.

tiew9Vii 6y ago

I’ve contracted at a couple of large orgs. Previously when I’ve been at them they where on Slack, more recently they use Teams. People complain about using Teams compared to Slack but Teams seems good enough for the people paying for Slack to decide to stop using it. Teams being bundled with Office 365 is a huge value proposition. It’s not a case of who’s best, Slack seems more useful but can never compete with free which Teams is if you already have Office 365 which most large orgs do. Teams video chat is way better than Slack also which may of helped this past year with working from home.

cagey 6y ago
Agree. At my employer the largest engineering BU has been a zealous user of Slack for many years. Problem is, Slack seat licenses aren't free (and are thus rationed) and TPBT are balking at adding any more Slack seats now that corp IT is aggressively pushing Teams which is apparently free (since the overall corp has grown a dependence on some mishmash of O365). The Slack zealots thus appear to be fighting a (losing) rearguard battle against being forced onto Teams.
robjan 6y ago
Teams tends to be used by bigcorps with tens of thousands of hundreds of thousands of staff. Why buy and audit another tool when you already have a Office 365 subscription for the Org.
- laichzeit0 6y ago
  Not even just big orgs. I’m at a small org, our infra is all cloud, office 365 and we use use Teams because why pay money for Slack if Teams is free?
  - throwaway201103 6y ago
    If Slack is better than Teams and boosts productivity enough to be worth the cost, why wouldn't you pay money for it? I'm not saying this is the case, but just because Teams is free doesn't mean people won't pay for a better alternative. Clearly there are examples of free office software suites that nobody uses because Office365 is so much better that it's worth the cost.

HeyLaughingBoy 6y ago

The only anecdote I have is that we started out with Slack and moved on to Teams, which we prefer. It was just an easier integration with our existing systems.

Nextgrid 6y ago

Teams has only "won" in large enterprise environments who are already full-Microsoft and who used Skype for Business/Lync before. I'd argue this is not really Slack's competition as Slack would've been a non-starter for many of these companies to begin with. Teams however definitely didn't win the small business/startup game where tools are actually chosen based on functionality (and where end-users have a say in which tools to use) and Microsoft's market-penetration is lower or non-existent (so the bundling of Teams with Office 365 has no effect). In these cases, Slack wins by a large margin on functionality and performance alone considering how bad Teams is.

dagw 6y ago

I work at largish company (13k employees worldwide), and a couple of years ago there was a fair amount of Slack (admittedly mainly free tier) being used ad hoc around the company. Then word came down from up high that the company was standardizing on a single chat platform and that platform was Teams. Now there is basically no Slack being used (and certainly no paid Slack) any more. The main argument was that Slack for 13k employees was incredibly expensive, while Teams was 'free' and already integrated into most of their infrastructure.